Nothing like proving the point-

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by [B

Anne Applebaum, as published by Slate[/b]]All of which is simply beside the point, since nothing the pope has ever said comes even close to matching the vitriol, extremism, and hatred that pours out of the mouths of radical imams and fanatical clerics every day of the week all across Europe and the Muslim world, almost none of which ever provokes any Western response at all. And maybe it's time that it should.

It's cool to say this, but do you really think at the next time some Imam says something extreme we go kill a random Muslim, or burn a Mosque? Does that really solve anything?

On the other hand I'm all for being a free speach advocate. Pop culture and porn are our best secret weapons. We just need to get their women to start thinking they're fat, and the men to start thinking they're small.

[wendybeth]

In other words, we need to westernize them?



Edited to add: I have an idea! Let's arrange a USO-type tour; get Nicole Richie, the Olsen twins, Lindsey Lohan and Dr. Phil to headline. We could throw in Rosie for good measure.


I think you're on to something, €uro.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

In other words, we need to westernize them?

Well c'mon we know that violence is just a cover for their feelings of inadequacy - all those guns? phallic symbols...who are they trying to kid? But can you blame them? look at what their women are wearing - it's no wonder they mostly prefer boys...

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

It's cool to say this, but do you really think at the next time some Imam says something extreme we go kill a random Muslim, or burn a Mosque? Does that really solve anything?

On the other hand I'm all for being a free speach advocate. Pop culture and porn are our best secret weapons. We just need to get their women to start thinking they're fat, and the men to start thinking they're small.

This is a great piece of logic and it would work, look what it's done for the US.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

This states things pretty well, in my opinion.

Wow. That's the best take on the Radical Islam vs The West I've seen in quite a while. I agree completely.

[CoasterMatt]

I got an idea...

Supersoakers filled with pigs blood. No "weapons", just millions of gallons of pigs blood sprayed all over the Muslim world.

[wendybeth]

A relative of mine, Gen. Pershing, was rumored to have done something akin to this to stop the insurgency in Palestine, I believe. From what I understand, he ordered bullets to be dipped in pig's blood and then had his men shoot a line of insurgents. Supposedly, this stopped any further attacks as the enemy was afraid that they would not get into Paradise with the taint of pig's blood upon them. I really doubt today's Martyr would be so easily swayed- they all ate BLT's and drank like fishes prior to the Sept. 11th attacks. (There must be some sort of Martyr upgrade being offered now).

[Alex]

Assuming you're talking about John Pershing, he was never stationed in the Middle East. The story your thinking of is about him putting down a Muslim insurgency in the Phillipines during our occupation of that country following the Spanish American War.

It is generally considered apocryphal though for a couple reasons. There is not evidence that the events happened. Also, Muslims do not believe that they will be barred from heaven for having having been touched by a pig or pig's blood. So the tactic wouldn't work even if tried.

There was an email glurge thing with this story back shortly after 9/11 so I'm sure there are details at Snopes.

[innerSpaceman]

Or how about a power drill to the skull? ... the new fave, all the rage among Muslim Death Squads.

In fact, let's just get out of the way, and let them all kill each other.

[Prudence]

I think there might be a slight apples and oranges here. My perception is that the types of violence are different. My impression is that much of the violence linked to the Muslim faith is reactionary - and to very specific triggers. Certainly some Christian violence is reactionary, but not to the same degree. For example, some Christians might choose to protest a local action (judicial ruling, political speech, funeral, etc...) but it tends to stay localized to the action.

I could be totally wrong. Maybe when the Supremes handed down Lawrence v. Texas Christian groups across the globe bombed bath houses. I don't know. I didn't hear about it, but it's not something I would have been listening for.

On the other hand, the Pope says something (in Germany?) that Muslims don't like and someone kills a nun in Somalia.

There's also a sense of tacit approval. Again, this is perception, but it seems like when a wacky Christian group blows up something many people nutter about how wrong-minded those people are, how they don't represent the right way to go about things, and there seems to be a sense of indignation. On the other hand, the impression the Muslim world gives off is more of a "well, *I* wouldn't have done it, but they had it coming."

And maybe it's a cultural variation. Maybe within the culture they're having the same response we're used to seeing in our culture, but it doesn't translate.

I was going somewhere with this but I lost the train of thought.