Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (SPOILERS) - Page 5

flippyshark · 07-15-2007, 11:09 AM

It occurs to me that this is an obnoxious derail. So, let me add to my previous post:

Yes, I also thought the Room of Requirement was perfect, just like I had pictured when I read the book.

innerSpaceman · 07-15-2007, 05:03 PM

Question: In the movie version of Goblet of Fire, didn't they drop the whole notion of Cho being Cedric's girlfriend? I mean, her and Harry were flirting as a running joke, and um, were she and Cedric like ever together? Did they attend the Yule Ball together??

Because in the Order of the Phoenix movie, there's a scene where Cho is clearly implicated to have had a special relationship with dearly departed Cedric. Did I miss something in Goblet of Fire, or is this a continuity error??

Oh, and I still think Ronald Weasley has developed into quite the hotty, and I'm sure I'm going to hell for it.

wendybeth · 07-15-2007, 06:20 PM

iSm, Cho had to turn Harry down in the GOF because she was already going with Cedric. (Rmember the scene in the Owlery?)

Well, saw it again today, and liked it even better. Did anyone catch how only Luna and Harry could hear the voices and see the veil? Hermione said it was just an empty archway. It seems obvious that it's some sort of confluence point between death and life, but perhaps it's something else?

lashbear · 07-15-2007, 06:40 PM

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But then why does Luna, immediately after consoling Harry about Sirius' death, go on to say that things have a way of coming back to you in completely unexpected ways?? She was purportedly talking about her shoes and stuff ... but in film language, that was clear foreshadowing about a potential return of Sirius Black in some form..

AHA !! Another thing left ouit of the film (and thus unlikely to ever happen in Deathly Hallows) is Sirius' Mirror that he gave Harry, which would have enabled him to speak to Sirius without using the fire (which also went no-where... no umbridge hand patting amongst the ashes).

Therefore, I believe that all hope of contacting sirius is gone, unless there's also a painting of him somewhere about that Kreacher's hidden.

Oh, and I thought that Lunas statement was also a hint for the last book.

katiesue · 07-16-2007, 09:30 AM

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AHA !! Another thing left ouit of the film (and thus unlikely to ever happen in Deathly Hallows) is Sirius' Mirror that he gave Harry, which would have enabled him to speak to Sirius without using the fire (which also went no-where... no umbridge hand patting amongst the ashes).

Therefore, I believe that all hope of contacting sirius is gone, unless there's also a painting of him somewhere about that Kreacher's hidden.

Oh, and I thought that Lunas statement was also a hint for the last book.

Harry tried the mirror at the end of the book. It didn't work and he smashed it. (Just finished reading it yesterday).

xharryb · 07-16-2007, 11:41 AM

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Emma Watson is thankfully beautiful again (and she's legal now, isn't she??).

Not quite yet. Only just turned 17.

I finally saw the new film on Saturday. I deffinitely liked it, and loved some parts of it, but overall didn't love the whole film. I think they would have only needed to add about 20 minutes or so, and things would have been clearer and less rushed for me.

Casting continued to be fabulous, and I agree with most here that the younger cast members are improving with each performance.

I think my favortie moment of the film was Harry and Sirius fighting side by side. My biggest dissapointment was a lack of emotional impact, for me anyway, when Sirius died. He's one of my favorite characters in the franchise, so I should have felt something there, but I didn't. Wether it was poorly set up over the course of the film or rushed in the moment it happened I'm not sure, but something was deffinitely missing for me.

innerSpaceman · 07-16-2007, 12:37 PM

Yeah, that did not have the emotional wallop it should have. I don't know why. They set up Harry and Black's relationship just fine, I thought. The audience seems to like Sirius Black. The muted-sound Harry screaming reaction was trite, but somewhat tried and and true. I just don't get why it wasn't more of an ooomph.

Perhaps if they'd portrayed the gateway more as it was in the book, and had Sirius slip through it without being killed first ... I guess there would have been the same uncertainty in the movie as in the books about his death, but I believe there would have been more of an emotional reaction to his mysterious disappearance than there was to his actual murder.

Stan4dSteph · 07-16-2007, 01:00 PM

Count me in the ranks who haven't read the books but generally enjoy the films.

I agree with the questions about the arch. It didn't seem to be explained as to what it was. I have no idea of its significance.

I really liked the actress' portrayal of Luna.

katiesue · 07-16-2007, 01:14 PM

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I agree with the questions about the arch. It didn't seem to be explained as to what it was. I have no idea of its significance.

It's not really explained in the book either, but you get the feeling it will be.

Chernabog · 07-16-2007, 01:56 PM

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It's not really explained in the book either, but you get the feeling it will be.

What, you mean like Harry is gonna jump in there and retrieve Sirius? I guess that is a possibility.

07-15-2007, 11:09 AM	#41
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	It occurs to me that this is an obnoxious derail. So, let me add to my previous post: Yes, I also thought the Room of Requirement was perfect, just like I had pictured when I read the book.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Question: In the movie version of Goblet of Fire, didn't they drop the whole notion of Cho being Cedric's girlfriend? I mean, her and Harry were flirting as a running joke, and um, were she and Cedric like ever together? Did they attend the Yule Ball together?? Because in the Order of the Phoenix movie, there's a scene where Cho is clearly implicated to have had a special relationship with dearly departed Cedric. Did I miss something in Goblet of Fire, or is this a continuity error?? Oh, and I still think Ronald Weasley has developed into quite the hotty, and I'm sure I'm going to hell for it.
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07-15-2007, 06:20 PM	#43
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	iSm, Cho had to turn Harry down in the GOF because she was already going with Cedric. (Rmember the scene in the Owlery?) Well, saw it again today, and liked it even better. Did anyone catch how only Luna and Harry could hear the voices and see the veil? Hermione said it was just an empty archway. It seems obvious that it's some sort of confluence point between death and life, but perhaps it's something else? __________________
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07-16-2007, 12:37 PM	#47
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, that did not have the emotional wallop it should have. I don't know why. They set up Harry and Black's relationship just fine, I thought. The audience seems to like Sirius Black. The muted-sound Harry screaming reaction was trite, but somewhat tried and and true. I just don't get why it wasn't more of an ooomph. Perhaps if they'd portrayed the gateway more as it was in the book, and had Sirius slip through it without being killed first ... I guess there would have been the same uncertainty in the movie as in the books about his death, but I believe there would have been more of an emotional reaction to his mysterious disappearance than there was to his actual murder.
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07-16-2007, 01:00 PM	#48
Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	Count me in the ranks who haven't read the books but generally enjoy the films. I agree with the questions about the arch. It didn't seem to be explained as to what it was. I have no idea of its significance. I really liked the actress' portrayal of Luna.
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