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Old 04-09-2008, 06:57 PM   #41
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Well, I suppose we could arrest anyone who, based on online surveillance, has even suggested about protesting....or arrest anyone who is protesting and sentence them to years of prison for crimes against the state.....I could go on, but why? I sure hope you said that tongue in cheek.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:35 PM   #42
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I also found this whole series of events quite amusing. They're playing keep away with the torch.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:11 PM   #43
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:06 PM   #44
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No, I didn't say that tongue in cheek. To say we're not as bad as China is like saying we're not as bad as Nazi Germany (there, I godwined ... deal).

I'm sick and tired of our right to peaceful protest being made meaningless by the police state. First protestors are blocked from being within miles of the political or financial events they want to object to, and now the events themselves are being moved away from the protestors.

Add up all the other civil liberties lost in the last 8 years and you have, mr. scaeagles, a situation not at all unlike Germany at a quarter to third reich, eastern bloc time.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:13 PM   #45
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While I deplore free speech zones and all of that. I'm not really seeing where any civil liberties were abridged today. The right to protest is not a right to have the object of your protest be where you expect it to be.
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I didn't say they were the same thing. I'm implying they are symptomatic of the same thing.


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Afraid I don't see it on this one (though I'll spot you dozens of other tiny steps), but we don't have to agree.
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Though nothing unconstitutional or illegal, per se, I find the Free Speech Zones to be completely chilling in a 1984/Animal Farm fashion. Traveling Free Speech Zones and Public Events at Undisclosed Locations seems to take this concept one step creepily further. Me hates it.


And I find it an unpleasantly ironic thing to do with protests against China.
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Not that any mob is a good mob ... but a Chinese American holding both a Chinese and Tibetan flag and talking about how it was possible to be supportive of both was roughed up and intimidated by a bunch of pro-China demonstrators at yesterday's San Francisco stuff.


Yeah, way to make China look even better. What nimrods.
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Though nothing unconstitutional or illegal, per se, I find the Free Speech Zones to be completely chilling in a 1984/Animal Farm fashion. Traveling Free Speech Zones and Public Events at Undisclosed Locations seems to take this concept one step creepily further. Me hates it.



http://www.jewishworldreview.com/040...itz041108.php3

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In order to keep the new location a secret, Wu revealed that China had not even disclosed it to NBC, who has a contract to televise the 2008 summer games.


This decision drew an outraged response from NBC chairman Jeff Zucker, who told reporters in New York, "If NBC doesn't know where the Olympics are, no one will watch them."


Wu took exception to Mr. Zucker's comment about no one watching the Olympics, responding, "That sounds like a typical NBC show to me."
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On the campaign trail, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) blasted China's human rights record, telling an audience in Pittsburgh, "I have always fought for human rights in China, which is why I risked my life in Tiananmen Square."
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