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Old 07-03-2008, 02:28 PM   #1
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Not only do I think that California should be its own country, and Texas should be its own country .... but I think California should be the most progressive, liberal, generous, advanced, safe and peaceful country ...

















.... right after we annihilate Texas.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:20 PM   #2
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The problem is that Northern California would never agree to be an independent country with Southern California. There are enough people in Nor Cal who wish to break away as a separate state from So Cal. as it is.




OK, well, not THE problem, just one of many.
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The problem with California becoming its own country (and yes, I know it you know it is just a fun to imagine pipe dream) is that I suspect Colorado and Arizona will no longer feel contractually obligated to provide Los Angeles with water.
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The problem with California becoming its own country (and yes, I know it you know it is just a fun to imagine pipe dream) is that I suspect Colorado and Arizona will no longer feel contractually obligated to provide Los Angeles with water.
Water is the primary wedge why some Nor Californians want to be a separate state from So Cal.
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The problem with California becoming its own country (and yes, I know it you know it is just a fun to imagine pipe dream) is that I suspect Colorado and Arizona will no longer feel contractually obligated to provide Los Angeles with water.
Perhaps, but they will gladly give it up for our porn
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Perhaps, but they will gladly give it up for our porn
No way! I'm not giving up mine! They can't have....


What?


Oh... The Southern California porn industry...


Never mind.


You didn't hear that.
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Doesn't Texas have the right, in some deal when they agreed to become a state, that they can secede at any time without penalty?
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Doesn't Texas have the right, in some deal when they agreed to become a state, that they can secede at any time without penalty?
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Another Texas-related legend holds that the Texans negotiated an annexation treaty which reserved to them the right to secede from the Union without the consent of the U.S. Congress, but the terms of Texas' annexation contain no such provision.
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Old 07-03-2008, 02:34 PM   #9
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The problem is that Northern California would never agree to be an independent country with Southern California. There are enough people in Nor Cal who wish to break away as a separate state from So Cal. as it is.
For Every Federal Dollar California pays in taxes it receives only $.80 in services. (Texas being #1 at receiving $1.34 for every dollar paid)

As for State taxes, Northern CA receives $.71 in services comapared to Southern CA's $1.29 (Due to the states representation in the more populated southern part of the state)

Northern CA is tired of carrying you guys. lol...

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Doesn't Texas have the right, in some deal when they agreed to become a state, that they can secede at any time without penalty?
We should be so lucky. I say trade Texas for Baja with Mexico. We get Cabo, they get the Bushes.
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Nope. And I linked to that site because if there was a case to be made that it was codified in writing, they'd make it.

Unlike them, I do think the Civil War did answer the question.


And above I meant Arizona and the Colorado River not Colorado the state.
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