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Old 07-31-2009, 08:44 PM   #41
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Coach McMackin suspended for 30 days without pay. He will volunteer to coach the team in the meantime. His pay will go to gay causes.

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Wouldn't it be funny if he were a Mormon?
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:18 PM   #42
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Coach McMackin suspended for 30 days without pay. He will volunteer to coach the team in the meantime. His pay will go to gay causes.
This worries me when I hear it. After hearing how rights groups basically trade "public forgiveness" for suitably high donations to their causes, it smells a little like blackmail, or at least buying indulgences.

If you suck, apologize, correct the behavior. The donations thing is an expensive throwaway, and while it's nice that gay rights organizations will get some money, I don't feel it was come by "honestly" and, personally, the donation doesn't change my opinion half as much as the apologies and behavior corrections do. I really don't like that this donation thing is becoming part of the "standard package of forgiveness" in the public eye.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:10 PM   #43
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I'm with you there. It's downright creepy ... in that it sorta creeped up as the public apology standard.

I don't know how we'll get out of it now. As soon as someone doesn't pay one of these honorariums, they'll get flack for it.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:33 AM   #44
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Perhaps not 100% germane to this post, but I didn't know if this was worthy of its own thread.

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She began her statement with a quick recap of why she wrote her book The Meaning of Matthew. <snip> After about 5 to 10 minutes, she opened the floor to questions.

About 45 minutes in, a man rose and asked a question that amounted to repeating a current popular right-wing lie--Matthew Shepard was killed because his killers were high and wanted to rob him; his sexual orientation was irrelevant. Mrs. Shepard refuted the claim--pointing out that in one of the killer's confessions, he admitted they acted because of Shepard's sexual orientation; the other, in his statement in court, admitted the same. Neither men tested positive for drugs or alcohol after Matthew's murder. The interlocutor asserted at this point that she was lying and doing a disservice to history by lying about the reasons for her son's murder. To my eyes, Judy Shepard appeared visibly upset by the man's accusations. He claimed to be relying on a report from 20/20; she pointed out that the 20/20 actually ignored the evidence and testimony of both men. She did not deny the men had a history of drug abuse. She pointed out the facts; the man refused to accept them.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:02 AM   #45
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Sounds like a typical right-winger to me!
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:06 AM   #46
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Sounds like a typical right-winger to me!
Sounds like a typical ignorant moron to me.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:07 AM   #47
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Sounds like a typical ignorant moron to me.
Same thing.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:08 AM   #48
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Aren't they one in the same?



ETA: JW beat me to it.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:12 AM   #49
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Nope. You have ignorant morons all over the political spectrum.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:15 AM   #50
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That's not what either of us was implying. Saying that all rabid right-wingers are ignorant morons is not the same thing as saying all ignorant morons are rabid right-wingers.



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