Miscellaneous Movie Musings the Sequel - Page 51

Gemini Cricket · 05-10-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

We watched Grey Gardens with Jessica Tandy and Drew Barrymore last night. I have the urge to talk like Little Edie... "So I think this is the best report for today."

"Mother Darling."

Did they really dig up the corpse of Jessica Tandy for that movie? Uh, gross! Those bastard producers...

lol

Jessica Lange, love.

I loved Grey Gardens the movie and the doco. Little Edie rules.

JWBear · 05-10-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

"Mother Darling."

Did they really dig up the corpse of Jessica Tandy for that movie? Uh, gross! Those bastard producers...

lol

Jessica Lange, love.

I loved Grey Gardens the movie and the doco. Little Edie rules.

Oops... I typed the wrong Jessica!

Gemini Cricket · 05-10-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Oops... I typed the wrong Jessica!

I was just kidding, too. It made me laugh because I started envisioning a 'Weekend at Bernies' meets 'Driving Miss Daisy' meets 'Grey Gardens' movie.

JW, did you see the original doco? It's rather good. I bought it long ago when my Barnes & Noble location had all Criterion DVDs on sale.

JWBear · 05-10-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

JW, did you see the original doco? It's rather good.

We watched last year sometime.

SzczerbiakManiac · 05-03-2010, 01:06 PM

Based on your current avatar, I had a feeling you'd seen Grey Gardens recently.

Cadaverous Pallor · 05-03-2010, 01:46 PM

I loved the characterization of Tiana and Ray specifically, though Tiana did get a bit repetitive after a while. Lotti was surprisingly likable even as she teetered near villain status. Voice, visual, fit with the era, etc, all pretty cool.

Everything else wasn't all that fantastic, but enjoyable. Visually, very nice, though quite a bit felt too derivative to me. I guess at this point they can't do much without it feeling like an echo of something else. I did love the feel of the era and the stylized parts were awesome. The shadow stuff was fun, scary without being too scary for kids.

SPOILERS AHEAD, it's an old movie and I'm too lazy for tags.

Some parts were downright muddy, swamp or not. Why does the prince not propose? Because she cares about her restaurant? Didn't he already say he wanted to make her dream come true? I didn't get that scene at all.

I have no idea what Tiana or anyone else would see in the prince. There wasn't nearly enough actual wooing. Half a dance, one sideways look, that's it? The mincing scene made him look pitiable, not lovable. Of course he was gorgeous in human form...

Why didn't Lotti just get her dad to bankroll Tiana's restaurant venture in the first place? She wouldn't even have to tell him what the cash was for. Hell, she could have at least given Tiana a better job. Huge plot hole. The more I think about it, it's almost as if the movie is pandering to all the spoiled rich kids that feed the studio cash by making a brat into a lovable good guy for very little reason. Again, I dug her character design and the voice was fantastic, but this is an especially tough sell, especially in light of my last gripe...

They completely ignored the original Brothers Grimm story. I would have been satisfied if the storybook within the movie were the actual story, but it wasn't, at all. In The Frog Prince she doesn't even have to kiss the frog, and while no one remembers that (including me, to be honest), there's the actual STORY to it, having to do with a spoiled brat learning to honor her promises.

Anyway, the more I pick at it the more I dislike it, though there really was some good stuff in there, like the voodoo swamp queen and Evangeline and the songs were fine if not very memorable (except for Almost There, I did think that was genuinely great).

Ghoulish Delight · 05-03-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

IWhy does the prince not propose? Because she cares about her restaurant? Didn't he already say he wanted to make her dream come true? I didn't get that scene at all.

Because he learned that she needed the money by the next day. He had earlier said he'd marry her and work with her to save money, but since she needed the money immediately his only choice was to marry Lotti (thus getting instant access to money) and give it to Tiana.

Alex · 05-09-2010, 06:13 AM

I thought Iron Man 2 suffered a bit from what made Spider-Man 3 such an awful movie in that it tried to do way too much and was constantly distracting itself. Each of the three story lines were good on their own but when forced to compete for attention were given short shrift.

It delivers entertainment but for me did not rise above the middle of the pack for comic book movies. Though when I got home AMC was showing Superman Returns so I was immediately reminded that it could have been much worse (if they'd been showing Transformers I'd have been reminded of who truly abysmal it could get).

As for the post-credits nugget I'm guessing that only 20% of the people there had even the faintest idea of what they were seeing (it's a set up for the Avengers movie), I know I had to explain it to Lani.

Moonliner · 05-10-2010, 02:38 PM

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As for the post-credits nugget I'm guessing that only 20% of the people there had even the faintest idea of what they were seeing (it's a set up for the Avengers movie), I know I had to explain it to Lani.

Avengers? I thought it was for Thor.

Both the Moonielings missed the other reference: They had no idea what the "thing" they used to level out the minicollider was.

How the hell did that wind up in his shop anyway?

And as for the Shield Ninja Girl, is she her own comic/movie? Should I have heard of her or is she new to this telling?

Moonliner · 05-10-2010, 02:44 PM

Thor - 2011

Director: Kenneth Branagh - Interesting.
Natalie Portman
Anthony Hopkins
Rene Russo

Ok, I'm intrigued by this one.

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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	I loved the characterization of Tiana and Ray specifically, though Tiana did get a bit repetitive after a while. Lotti was surprisingly likable even as she teetered near villain status. Voice, visual, fit with the era, etc, all pretty cool. Everything else wasn't all that fantastic, but enjoyable. Visually, very nice, though quite a bit felt too derivative to me. I guess at this point they can't do much without it feeling like an echo of something else. I did love the feel of the era and the stylized parts were awesome. The shadow stuff was fun, scary without being too scary for kids. SPOILERS AHEAD, it's an old movie and I'm too lazy for tags. Some parts were downright muddy, swamp or not. Why does the prince not propose? Because she cares about her restaurant? Didn't he already say he wanted to make her dream come true? I didn't get that scene at all. I have no idea what Tiana or anyone else would see in the prince. There wasn't nearly enough actual wooing. Half a dance, one sideways look, that's it? The mincing scene made him look pitiable, not lovable. Of course he was gorgeous in human form... Why didn't Lotti just get her dad to bankroll Tiana's restaurant venture in the first place? She wouldn't even have to tell him what the cash was for. Hell, she could have at least given Tiana a better job. Huge plot hole. The more I think about it, it's almost as if the movie is pandering to all the spoiled rich kids that feed the studio cash by making a brat into a lovable good guy for very little reason. Again, I dug her character design and the voice was fantastic, but this is an especially tough sell, especially in light of my last gripe... They completely ignored the original Brothers Grimm story. I would have been satisfied if the storybook within the movie were the actual story, but it wasn't, at all. In The Frog Prince she doesn't even have to kiss the frog, and while no one remembers that (including me, to be honest), there's the actual STORY to it, having to do with a spoiled brat learning to honor her promises. Anyway, the more I pick at it the more I dislike it, though there really was some good stuff in there, like the voodoo swamp queen and Evangeline and the songs were fine if not very memorable (except for Almost There, I did think that was genuinely great).
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05-09-2010, 06:13 AM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I thought Iron Man 2 suffered a bit from what made Spider-Man 3 such an awful movie in that it tried to do way too much and was constantly distracting itself. Each of the three story lines were good on their own but when forced to compete for attention were given short shrift. It delivers entertainment but for me did not rise above the middle of the pack for comic book movies. Though when I got home AMC was showing Superman Returns so I was immediately reminded that it could have been much worse (if they'd been showing Transformers I'd have been reminded of who truly abysmal it could get). As for the post-credits nugget I'm guessing that only 20% of the people there had even the faintest idea of what they were seeing (it's a set up for the Avengers movie), I know I had to explain it to Lani.
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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	Thor - 2011 Director: Kenneth Branagh - Interesting. Natalie Portman Anthony Hopkins Rene Russo Ok, I'm intrigued by this one. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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