The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 517

JWBear · 01-20-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I agree with that, JW. I am not against any health care reform, but certainly am against what is presented at present.

The funny thing is, so am I; but for very different reasons, I'm sure.

flippyshark · 01-20-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

He is alienating the center because he's playing the same political games he vowed he wouldn't play.

Sadly, that seems true. I'm inclined to give Obama as much benefit of the doubt as I can, but he's going to have to do quite a lot in the next three years to impress me. As it stands, one-term presidency seems likely.

At the same time, when Brown said that his victory wasn't a referendum on Obama, I think that's true. November, though ...

scaeagles · 01-20-2010, 01:14 PM

Most assuredly. Good lord knows I just want everyone to get sick and die.

Alex · 01-20-2010, 01:28 PM

Now that's just slanderous hyperbole.

If you wanted people to get sick and die it would only be people without income, or with insufficient income, that you'd want to get sick and die.

Of course, you don't want people to get sick and die. However, if people do get sick you are accept that access to money or certain employment will be a key factor in their attempt to avoid death (or remediation of sickness).

But that's fine, since support of a free market (or mostly free market) health care system is one of pragmatism. That despite individual harm, it is does more good overall than the alternative.

At core, I'm ok with this as well. However, my view is that this will be on the losing side of history. So, since my core view is unlikely to prevail I'd rather have the best option of the other side rather than a mishmash of things that is likely to make things worse individually and collectively.

sleepyjeff · 01-20-2010, 01:29 PM

Just outlaw ALL Health insurance and watch the prices fall......(I know, I know, too easy

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JWBear · 01-21-2010, 09:32 AM

All hail our new corporate overlords!

Gemini Cricket · 01-21-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

All hail our new corporate overlords!

You know, I've always felt they were our overlords anyway.

Big business owns the media... etc etc etc.

In related news, I have never been more disinterested in the news, politics and government in my whole life than I am at this very moment.

flippyshark · 01-21-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

In related news, I have never been more disinterested in the news, politics and government in my whole life than I am at this very moment.

Then why'd ya click on this thread, huh?

Gemini Cricket · 01-21-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

Then why'd ya click on this thread, huh?

To post what I wrote. Then I saw JW's flag picture. I often do not read everything in this thread.

scaeagles · 01-21-2010, 10:23 AM

I was exceptionally happy about portions of McCain/Feingold being overturned.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Now that's just slanderous hyperbole. If you wanted people to get sick and die it would only be people without income, or with insufficient income, that you'd want to get sick and die. Of course, you don't want people to get sick and die. However, if people do get sick you are accept that access to money or certain employment will be a key factor in their attempt to avoid death (or remediation of sickness). But that's fine, since support of a free market (or mostly free market) health care system is one of pragmatism. That despite individual harm, it is does more good overall than the alternative. At core, I'm ok with this as well. However, my view is that this will be on the losing side of history. So, since my core view is unlikely to prevail I'd rather have the best option of the other side rather than a mishmash of things that is likely to make things worse individually and collectively.
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