The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 525

Strangler Lewis · 01-28-2010, 02:14 PM

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I do think that expanding the court to, say, 15 judges would be a good thing but it would never be politically viable in a time when the court is closely split ideologically and it would not be viewed as politically necessary when it isn't.

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

Chernabog · 01-28-2010, 02:25 PM

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Jobs, jobs, jobs.

LOL that's one way of doing it. If he pulls an FDR (?) on that one I'd totally love to kick back with some popcorn and watch the sparks fly.

Gemini Cricket · 01-28-2010, 01:04 PM

It seemed to me that he was actively trying to get the Republicans to applaud things he said. I think the injecting the "including foreign corporations" was one of those attempts.

On the whole, I liked his speech. The last 15 minutes or so had me riveted to the screen. The whole "America is cynical because we are all idiots who can't get beyond our egos to do sh!t" theme was right on the money. Him mentioning DADT was a bone for the LGBT community, I want action not more words, Mr. O.

Chernabog · 01-28-2010, 01:14 PM

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Him mentioning DADT was a bone for the LGBT community, I want action not more words, Mr. O.

Yeah people are pretty insulted by the "send me some money" e-mail that was sent post-speech, like that bone he threw was supposed to inspire us to actually believe he's gonna do jack.

Hopehopechangechangehopehopechangehopechangehope.

I mean, the SOTU IS a speech, after all, so it's gonna be "more words" by definition. But those words were so nebulous, so repetitive of what was said last year, so hollow.....

Don't get me wrong though. I'm not a closet Republican, despite what BJ tells me. McCain would have been much worse on the gay issues.

Morrigoon · 01-28-2010, 01:19 PM

Yeah, he mentioned DADT, but not DOMA. Some bone...

Gemini Cricket · 01-28-2010, 01:26 PM

What I enjoyed about the speech was that he came across as "one of us". I think his advisers are very perceptive. I think the tone of his speech was right on the money: people are pissed off at you and the Senate and the House do-nothings.
The line about Democrats doing something and not heading for the hills was right on the money. F*cking cowards. The line about Republicans joining in and not insisting on 60 votes to get things done was right on the money as well. F*cking bullies.
All in all, I am still cynical about our government. But what a good jerk off session it was.

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Yeah, he mentioned DADT, but not DOMA. Some bone...

Agreed. Imho, the Democrats are scared of the religious right in our country. It's sad.

Alex · 01-28-2010, 01:29 PM

Well, since a repeal of DOMA probably has an essentially zero chance of passing it would be a meaningless bone anyway and bundling it together would just make a repeal of DODT harder as it would be viewed even more as a first front down the slippery slope.

Gemini Cricket · 01-28-2010, 01:35 PM

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Well, since a repeal of DOMA probably has an essentially zero chance of passing it would be a meaningless bone anyway and bundling it together would just make a repeal of DOTA harder as it would be viewed even more as a first front down the slippery slope.

I'll buy that.
I wish there were politicians out there that would just stand up to the religious right openly. I'm not seeing that as much. I think the last time I saw that was when Martin Sheen told those religious lobbyists to get their fat asses out of his office during the pilot of The West Wing.

Alex · 01-28-2010, 02:32 PM

Is the question mark after FDR that you're not sure you got it right or that you don't know what I was referring to.

Just in case (or for anybody else), this is what I was referring to.

Chernabog · 01-28-2010, 02:50 PM

Yeah, it was a, I couldn't remember if it was FDR who did the court-packing thing.

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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	It seemed to me that he was actively trying to get the Republicans to applaud things he said. I think the injecting the "including foreign corporations" was one of those attempts. On the whole, I liked his speech. The last 15 minutes or so had me riveted to the screen. The whole "America is cynical because we are all idiots who can't get beyond our egos to do sh!t" theme was right on the money. Him mentioning DADT was a bone for the LGBT community, I want action not more words, Mr. O.
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Yeah, he mentioned DADT, but not DOMA. Some bone... __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Well, since a repeal of DOMA probably has an essentially zero chance of passing it would be a meaningless bone anyway and bundling it together would just make a repeal of DODT harder as it would be viewed even more as a first front down the slippery slope. Last edited by Alex : 01-28-2010 at 02:18 PM. Reason: wrong acronym.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Is the question mark after FDR that you're not sure you got it right or that you don't know what I was referring to. Just in case (or for anybody else), this is what I was referring to.
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Chernabog Biophage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,679	Yeah, it was a, I couldn't remember if it was FDR who did the court-packing thing. __________________ And they say back then our universe Was a coal black egg Until the god inside Burst out and from its shattered shell He made what became the world we know ~ Bjork (Cosmogony)
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