The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 551

BarTopDancer · 03-26-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

No. What I am saying is that I find the current rise in right wing violence more troubling right now than what the left wing has done in the past. What is past is past. What is going on right now is an issue that needs to be addressed. How much clearer do I need to be?

Try this:

What I am saying is that I find the current rise in ~~right wing~~ violence more troubling right now than what ~~the left wing has~~ done in the past.

scaeagles · 03-26-2010, 01:28 PM

My point, rather than to downplay any of it, was that these things really aren't anything new. I will admit that after trying to make that point I was irritated by the implication that this comes only from the right, and therefore went about pointing out other violence from other sources.

innerSpaceman · 03-26-2010, 02:23 PM

And, JayDub, you also seem too close it when you react to a post which started with the very tactful "maybe you are too close to it" by offering hyperbole like "I'm obviously a complete dolt."

BarTopDancer · 03-26-2010, 02:26 PM

Violent threats from both sides are wrong.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-30-2010, 01:16 PM

Dang, I've been following the proposal by USPS to drop Saturday delivery with purely spectator interest, it really wouldn't effect me much at all.

However, I just read an article that had a good point. Netflix might be boned.

Alex · 03-30-2010, 01:24 PM

At first, that was the only reason I could come up with for caring if they drop Saturdays but then remembered its been months since I actually used them for a physical DVD (the most recent disc I have was mailed in November).

But the bigger reason I eventually thought of was not that I care about losing a day of delivery but that I would prefer it not be Saturday. On those rare occasions when I need to use the post office, Saturday is frequently the most convenient day to do so, especially if it is to pick up a package or something at a specific post office. They should eliminate Tuesdays (or Mondays if it has to be consecutive, but it has lesser benefit since so many holidays are Mondays).

flippyshark · 03-30-2010, 01:34 PM

I regularly get paychecks in my mailbox on Saturdays, and even though I cannot then take them to the bank, I get to do so first thing Monday morning, whereas this change would force me to "wait by the mailbox" on Mondays. so, i'm agin' it.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-02-2010, 09:56 AM

Sean Hannity calls a crowd of Tea Partiers "Tim McVeigh wannabes"...and they applaud!

I sh*t you not.

Now, I'm willing to grant that yes, the applause started before he said the Tim McVeigh line, and because of the applause, many may not have even heard it. So I don't see the applauding crowd as the big story here (as good of a headline as it makes). But the fact remains, Hannity said it, with zero sense of irony, and meant it as a compliment. WTF? W-T-F?!

ETA: Hmm, a comment elsewhere seems to indicate that Hannity WAS using it ironically, that other people had referred to them as "Tim McVeigh wannabes" and he was using it sarcastically. Wow, he did NOT think that through.

Strangler Lewis · 04-02-2010, 10:26 AM

Judging from the tone, I would say it was a compliment. Now, it may have been a compliment along the lines of "These idiots actually did some good," but it was a compliment nonetheless.

Alex · 04-02-2010, 10:41 AM

I'd be curious to know what had been discussed earlier in the show, perhaps something about how everybody who opposes HCR is lumped in with violent right-wing terrorists. I'm sure he meant "these people who the left would call Tim McVeigh wannabes in a shotgun blast attempt to discredit them..." but yeah, it makes for a horrible soundbite.

03-26-2010, 01:28 PM	#2
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	My point, rather than to downplay any of it, was that these things really aren't anything new. I will admit that after trying to make that point I was irritated by the implication that this comes only from the right, and therefore went about pointing out other violence from other sources.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	And, JayDub, you also seem too close it when you react to a post which started with the very tactful "maybe you are too close to it" by offering hyperbole like "I'm obviously a complete dolt."
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Dang, I've been following the proposal by USPS to drop Saturday delivery with purely spectator interest, it really wouldn't effect me much at all. However, I just read an article that had a good point. Netflix might be boned. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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03-30-2010, 01:24 PM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	At first, that was the only reason I could come up with for caring if they drop Saturdays but then remembered its been months since I actually used them for a physical DVD (the most recent disc I have was mailed in November). But the bigger reason I eventually thought of was not that I care about losing a day of delivery but that I would prefer it not be Saturday. On those rare occasions when I need to use the post office, Saturday is frequently the most convenient day to do so, especially if it is to pick up a package or something at a specific post office. They should eliminate Tuesdays (or Mondays if it has to be consecutive, but it has lesser benefit since so many holidays are Mondays).
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03-30-2010, 01:34 PM	#7
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	I regularly get paychecks in my mailbox on Saturdays, and even though I cannot then take them to the bank, I get to do so first thing Monday morning, whereas this change would force me to "wait by the mailbox" on Mondays. so, i'm agin' it.
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04-02-2010, 09:56 AM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Sean Hannity calls a crowd of Tea Partiers "Tim McVeigh wannabes"...and they applaud! I sh*t you not. Now, I'm willing to grant that yes, the applause started before he said the Tim McVeigh line, and because of the applause, many may not have even heard it. So I don't see the applauding crowd as the big story here (as good of a headline as it makes). But the fact remains, Hannity said it, with zero sense of irony, and meant it as a compliment. WTF? W-T-F?! ETA: Hmm, a comment elsewhere seems to indicate that Hannity WAS using it ironically, that other people had referred to them as "Tim McVeigh wannabes" and he was using it sarcastically. Wow, he did NOT think that through. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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04-02-2010, 10:26 AM	#9
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Judging from the tone, I would say it was a compliment. Now, it may have been a compliment along the lines of "These idiots actually did some good," but it was a compliment nonetheless. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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04-02-2010, 10:41 AM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'd be curious to know what had been discussed earlier in the show, perhaps something about how everybody who opposes HCR is lumped in with violent right-wing terrorists. I'm sure he meant "these people who the left would call Tim McVeigh wannabes in a shotgun blast attempt to discredit them..." but yeah, it makes for a horrible soundbite.
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