The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[innerSpaceman]

It appears there's gonna be a clash with the federal government over this. I'd love if, as one Congressman (I forget who) is proposing, the feds simply refused to cooperate. Arizona's law would be moot without anyone from immigration going along with it.

So I think the Dems are laughing all the way to the voting booth with this one, as Republicans just drive this major demographic into Democrat territory - despite the generally conservative nature of the people in that demographic.

[scaeagles]

I disagree with your assessment of the political situation in AZ. A huge majority of 70% of the populace supports the legisation. Also, that demographic already votes overwhelmingly on the dem side anyway. The political calculation (at least for the governor) is trying to get the 70% to vote for her reelection.

Districts are drawn in such a way in AZ that two districts have House Seats that will always go to the incumbants of Ed Pastor and Rual Grijalva (not sure on the spelling of that one). Where this is hurting the dems in AZ congressional elections is in the disctrict of Harry Mitchell and Ann Kirkpatrick, who both occupy districts that are leaning toward their republican challangers.

[innerSpaceman]

I wasn't so much talking Arizona as national politics. This is BIG NEWS among Latinos outside your state. Anti-immigrant tactics have gone against Republicans before. This is the biggest boondoggle I've seen them make in this regard.

[scaeagles]

Again, though, when has the Latino voting block EVER gone republican?

[Alex]

Once upon a time, when they lived in Florida.

[BarTopDancer]

Meg Whitman and Steve Poizner. Who are they, where did they come from and do they really thing CA is going to go all conservative? We might vote for Republican Governators but we're still a pretty left-leaning state (despite Prop H8).

All their ads are doing is helping me decide who is more liberal. I'm so confused.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Currently they're running against each other in the republican primary, so all you're going to hear about is how each of them is more conservative than the other. In the end, they're both pretty conservative and don't stand a chance of getting my vote.

The most recent This American Life had a very interesting piece on Poizner. Again, there was zero chance of me voting for him to begin with, but this story just got under my skin.

[BarTopDancer]

And that's all I need to know.

Thanks!

[Ghoulish Delight]

From here on out, I'm going to take a page from the "pro lifers" (who like to refer to pro-choice people as "pro abortion") and start referring to conservatives as "anti-progress".

Similarly, I may start referring to "pro lifers" as "pro rape-baby".

[scaeagles]

That's great, GD. I lolve how liberals and progressives want to talk about eliminating divisions and coming together to solve problems. I am constantly amazed on how it is OK to be divisive and not care about unity or rational debate when a liberal feels like it.

Perhaps I will start referring to pro-choice individuals as "pro-genocide", as many people in the pro-choice movement early on were racists and saw it as a good way to trim down the number of african americans in this country.

On a different note, for those of you that think the tea party movement has been a group of violence loving yellers, seen any of the anti-Arizona immigration law rallies? State capital and surrounding areas have been vandalized, with swaztikas painted on sidewalks and the capital building itself. Gotta love those peaceful, peace loving liberal rallies.

Perhaps I will start referring to those against the immigration law in AZ as the "pro-murder" and "pro-identity theft" and "pro-violence" and "pro-vandalism" crowd. Yeah, that'll help the situation with rational discussion.

Sheesh.