Miscellaneous Movie Musings the Sequel - Page 57

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-02-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

I saw two answers that I was certain did contribute to his drinking problem, so those were dismissed.

Yeah, you're still confused. You're supposed to pick the correct answer. Plus, you're supposed to pick what he specifically said "as much as anything else" contributed to his drinking problem.

I dug up the script.

Quote:

Striker : A lot of people made plans before the war . . .like George Zip. It was at that moment that I
first realized Elaine had doubts about our
relationship. And that as much as anything else
led to my drinking problem ( He pours his drink
on himself.)

So that was the correct answer, Elaine's doubts.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-02-2010, 12:32 PM

I knew you weren't mad and weren't serious about the shenanigans, I just couldn't figure out why you purposely chose an answer you knew to be wrong. Now I see that you read the question wrong. It wasn't a "which one didn't contribute to his drinking problem?" It was, "Which one did he say 'as much as anything else' contributed to his drinking problem?"

Gemini Cricket · 07-02-2010, 12:33 PM

8 out of 10.

SzczerbiakManiac · 07-02-2010, 01:07 PM

<heavy sigh>
must learn how to read....

Ghoulish Delight · 07-02-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

<heavy sigh>
must learn how to read....

I have a light pamphlet you can start with...

Gemini Cricket · 07-02-2010, 01:42 PM

Excuse me, Ghoulish Delight, I speak SzczerbiakManiacese.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-04-2010, 09:07 AM

I'm torn.

On the one hand, there were major flaws. The fact that it was a linear narrative was a major negative, and on top of that the narrative itself was not good. Heavy handed, self important, and generally uninteresting.

That said, I thought there were genuinely good things about this movie, things that made me like it more than any Burton movie in a long long time. While the specific tale that was told I could do without, I liked a lot of the underlying structure it happened in. I was surprised at how on board I was with delving into the Hatter's madness, and with the geo-political bent on Wonderland. There were moments in there, like when the Hatter saw the nose fall off and noticed everyone else's fakery, that were really really good. Unfortunately, it all got taken too far, too ham-fisted, too grandiose.

Where this movie succeeded, it succeeded because it was ambitious. Unlike most of Burton's recent crap, he seemed to be TRYING to add something new. Hatter as leader of underground rebellion was far more of a creative leap than anything in Charlie and the Chocolate factory. The result was flawed, and the bulk of the plot was largely not ambitious. But anything truly ambitious is bound to be flawed as the idea is to reach beyond what is obvious.

That's not to say I thought it was a good movie. It's flaws were many, and unforgivable. I had forgotten about the talk of the dance at the end. Holy crap, atrocious. Just to name the worst.

So sadly, even Burton's best effort in over a decade...is still a pretty big disappointment, with some vague glimmers of good.

Snowflake · 07-08-2010, 12:58 PM

Netflix is bringing me two movies I've never seen. Easy Rider and The Blue Max.

JWBear · 07-11-2010, 03:17 PM

We just saw Despicable Me. Cute.

Seeing it in a theater with 20 million screaming kids? Not so cute.

Strangler Lewis · 07-11-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

We just saw Despicable Me. Cute.

Seeing it in a theater with 20 million screaming kids? Not so cute.

By the same token, pity all the little kids who try to enjoy a pleasant Halloween in the Castro and wind up rolling their eyes endlessly at all the public displays of adult sexuality.

07-02-2010, 12:32 PM	#2
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I knew you weren't mad and weren't serious about the shenanigans, I just couldn't figure out why you purposely chose an answer you knew to be wrong. Now I see that you read the question wrong. It wasn't a "which one didn't contribute to his drinking problem?" It was, "Which one did he say 'as much as anything else' contributed to his drinking problem?" __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	8 out of 10.
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SzczerbiakManiac "ZER-bee-ak" Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,409	<heavy sigh> must learn how to read.... __________________
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Excuse me, Ghoulish Delight, I speak SzczerbiakManiacese.
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07-04-2010, 09:07 AM	#7
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm torn. On the one hand, there were major flaws. The fact that it was a linear narrative was a major negative, and on top of that the narrative itself was not good. Heavy handed, self important, and generally uninteresting. That said, I thought there were genuinely good things about this movie, things that made me like it more than any Burton movie in a long long time. While the specific tale that was told I could do without, I liked a lot of the underlying structure it happened in. I was surprised at how on board I was with delving into the Hatter's madness, and with the geo-political bent on Wonderland. There were moments in there, like when the Hatter saw the nose fall off and noticed everyone else's fakery, that were really really good. Unfortunately, it all got taken too far, too ham-fisted, too grandiose. Where this movie succeeded, it succeeded because it was ambitious. Unlike most of Burton's recent crap, he seemed to be TRYING to add something new. Hatter as leader of underground rebellion was far more of a creative leap than anything in Charlie and the Chocolate factory. The result was flawed, and the bulk of the plot was largely not ambitious. But anything truly ambitious is bound to be flawed as the idea is to reach beyond what is obvious. That's not to say I thought it was a good movie. It's flaws were many, and unforgivable. I had forgotten about the talk of the dance at the end. Holy crap, atrocious. Just to name the worst. So sadly, even Burton's best effort in over a decade...is still a pretty big disappointment, with some vague glimmers of good. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-08-2010, 12:58 PM	#8
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Netflix is bringing me two movies I've never seen. Easy Rider and The Blue Max. __________________ Be yourself; everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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07-11-2010, 03:17 PM	#9
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	We just saw Despicable Me. Cute. Seeing it in a theater with 20 million screaming kids? Not so cute. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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