MLB '10 - Page 6

Ghoulish Delight · 04-22-2010, 09:31 AM

Yeah, that was really weird.

Watching it at full speed a few times, I was positive the ball dropped. Watching in slow-mo, I wasn't so sure. No doubt that if there were instant replay in baseball (*shudder*) this would have been a call that would have remained as-called on the field, no conclusive evidence in the replay (though why Fox had only 1 camera angle on it is a mystery).

I'm still pretty sure the ball hit grass, not the tip of Ethier's glove. And thus I think the right call was eventually made on the field. It's not common for umpires to reverse their call after consulting, but it happens. The only thing unique about this situation is that I've never seen them reverse a call in a situation where, having made the wrong call initially, the result of the play is affected. Namely, had it not been ruled an out initially, the Reds would have had some chance at scoring 2 runs (though no guarantee with Ethier's arm). And I suppose even that is not all that unprecedented, there are plenty of situations (interference, ball going out of the field of play) that happen fairly commonly where umps are required to make a judgment call as to how likely it is that a runner would have advanced.

Alex · 04-22-2010, 09:43 AM

I'll have to look up the details.

My officiating highlight so far this season was an early game double play by the Mariners against the Athletics. The only issue was that nobody had actually been put out on the play and while there was half an argument for one of them being out anyway (he thought he'd been tagged, not seeing it was by an empty glove and so took a step towards the dugout before realizing and advancing to second), the other definitely never was.

Kevy Baby · 04-22-2010, 12:58 PM

I really hate to admit this, but the Nationals have had a better record than the Dodgers the last couple of days - I am surprised Moonie hasn't been lording that over!

For the record, as of the end of the day yesterday, the Nats were 8-7 (.533) and the Dodgers were 7-7 (.500).

Maybe he knows it won't last.

Moonliner · 04-22-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I really hate to admit this, but the Nationals have had a better record than the Dodgers the last couple of days - I am surprised Moonie hasn't been lording that over!

For the record, as of the end of the day yesterday, the Nats were 8-7 (.533) and the Dodgers were 7-7 (.500).

Maybe he knows it won't last.

Yeah. "Lord" it over you right before the Dodgers come to town.

I might be reckless, but I ain't delusional.

Alex · 04-23-2010, 08:35 AM

The A's have had at least a share of the division lead for 15 consecutive days. Party like it's 2005.

It likely won't last but a significant improvement over last year when the only time they had at least a share of the division lead was through the first 8 innings of game 1.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-23-2010, 08:42 AM

I'm trying to be happy with the consolation prize of the rare opportunity of seeing the Dodgers put up a lot of runs on a consistent basis, even as the trade off is giving up a lot of runs and losing games.

Trying.

Motorboat Cruiser · 04-23-2010, 09:55 AM

You and me both. Very frustrated right now.

Ghoulish Delight · 04-23-2010, 09:59 AM

The only hope is that they ride the sluggers through to the trade deadline and McCourt decides (assuming his hand's not forced by any divorce rulings in the meantime) to give Colletti the leeway to work his magic once again to make a run at the wildcard. Beyond that it'll be all about next season and how much of this power lineup they can maintain while fixing pitching.

scaeagles · 04-25-2010, 11:45 AM

Ouch. Not for the squeemish.

Alex · 04-25-2010, 05:16 PM

Based on the local recent example of a high school pitcher put into a coma similarly, I expect there'll now be demands that MLB outlaw aluminum bats.

04-22-2010, 09:31 AM	#1
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Yeah, that was really weird. Watching it at full speed a few times, I was positive the ball dropped. Watching in slow-mo, I wasn't so sure. No doubt that if there were instant replay in baseball (shudder) this would have been a call that would have remained as-called on the field, no conclusive evidence in the replay (though why Fox had only 1 camera angle on it is a mystery). I'm still pretty sure the ball hit grass, not the tip of Ethier's glove. And thus I think the right call was eventually made on the field. It's not common for umpires to reverse their call after consulting, but it happens. The only thing unique about this situation is that I've never seen them reverse a call in a situation where, having made the wrong call initially, the result of the play is affected. Namely, had it not been ruled an out initially, the Reds would have had some chance at scoring 2 runs (though no guarantee with Ethier's arm). And I suppose even that is not all that unprecedented, there are plenty of situations (interference, ball going out of the field of play) that happen fairly commonly where umps are required to make a judgment call as to how likely it is that a runner would have advanced. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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04-22-2010, 09:43 AM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'll have to look up the details. My officiating highlight so far this season was an early game double play by the Mariners against the Athletics. The only issue was that nobody had actually been put out on the play and while there was half an argument for one of them being out anyway (he thought he'd been tagged, not seeing it was by an empty glove and so took a step towards the dugout before realizing and advancing to second), the other definitely never was.
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04-22-2010, 12:58 PM	#3
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I really hate to admit this, but the Nationals have had a better record than the Dodgers the last couple of days - I am surprised Moonie hasn't been lording that over! For the record, as of the end of the day yesterday, the Nats were 8-7 (.533) and the Dodgers were 7-7 (.500). Maybe he knows it won't last. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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04-23-2010, 08:35 AM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The A's have had at least a share of the division lead for 15 consecutive days. Party like it's 2005. It likely won't last but a significant improvement over last year when the only time they had at least a share of the division lead was through the first 8 innings of game 1.
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04-23-2010, 08:42 AM	#6
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm trying to be happy with the consolation prize of the rare opportunity of seeing the Dodgers put up a lot of runs on a consistent basis, even as the trade off is giving up a lot of runs and losing games. Trying. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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04-23-2010, 09:55 AM	#7
Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	You and me both. Very frustrated right now.
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04-23-2010, 09:59 AM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	The only hope is that they ride the sluggers through to the trade deadline and McCourt decides (assuming his hand's not forced by any divorce rulings in the meantime) to give Colletti the leeway to work his magic once again to make a run at the wildcard. Beyond that it'll be all about next season and how much of this power lineup they can maintain while fixing pitching. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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04-25-2010, 11:45 AM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Ouch. Not for the squeemish.
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04-25-2010, 05:16 PM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Based on the local recent example of a high school pitcher put into a coma similarly, I expect there'll now be demands that MLB outlaw aluminum bats.
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