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Old 05-19-2005, 08:21 PM   #51
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I took my 11-year-old who was fine with it; all the violence was suggested, really, not shown. It wasn't a perfect movie, but I really enjoyed it. Yes, it was dark, but also a lot funnier than the first two in this trilogy. The special effects were beyond imagining...I'm still amazed at the first 7 minutes: holy cow!!!

As to the line, both Steve and I gave up on it fairly quickly, wishing for a true line for Star Wars. I spent under 40 hours there, and he was probably around that, though he stopped signing in as well. We both ended up at the Dome at the Arclight, on the standby list, but with pretty good seats I believe.

I'll let Steve post his response (which was negative over on our other board) and I'll post my reaction to that later....
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:49 PM   #52
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:17 PM   #53
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:20 PM   #54
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My short review (no real spoilers, but in case anyone's avoiding any opinion, it's in spoiler tags):

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Same flaws as the second. Acting, dialog, action all awful, in my estimation. A couple MAJOR continuity mistakes, one that could have been fixed with dialog looping, one that's written in and completely contradicts something said in Jedi.

I liked the last 30 minutes, and, much like the second, I liked the underlying story elements and select individual effects/characters. But the movie around it was just as bad, Christiansen is still holding steady at one and a half facial expressions. As good as things got for the last half hour, not worth the first 2 hours of bad movie.


So there ya have it. I'll go into detail eventually.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:25 PM   #55
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Just walked in from seeing it with Cassidy. My husband went to a midnight show last night. I couldn't go, since Chloe started barfing about 9 p.m., just minutes before we were walking out the door! Kids! My sister and her fiance were going to spend the night with the kids, but instead her fiance got to go to the movie in my place.

I really loved it.....I've been a bit ambivalent about it, not really looking forward to it, and now I understand why. I guess I just didn't really want it all to be done. Really done. Ugh.

I was thrilled to be able to see it for the first time sitting next to Cassidy, who was clutching a Darth Vader action figure in one hand and a light saber in the other. On the other side of her was a woman who sobbed the last 45 minutes of the movie. She and her husband came in decked out in old school Star Wars shirts, and talked with Cass for about an hour before the movie (we saw it at a plex that had SW playing on 6 screens). It was kind of cool to be seated near them. Also, a little creepy. They were WAY into it.

Okay......things I liked:

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~Palpatine getting ugly.....his fight with Mace Windu kicked major bootie. I had goosebumps the entire time. The way Cass feels about Vader, I've always felt about the Emperor, so for me, I knew that watching Palpatine show his true colors was going to be major. And it was. I was completely enthralled. And terrified!

~Count Dukoo.....I love Christopher Lee. Too bad Dukoo had to go down so quickly.

~The Emperor and Yoda flipping all over the place. Awesome.

~General Grievous. As soon as I played with the GG action figure, I knew he would be cool.....and boy was he. I looooved him!

~The opening sequence. Holy crap. Humorous, exciting, beautifully executed.

~The Wookies. I was so happy to see Chewbacca. I knew he was going to be in it, but there was something so cool about seeing him.

~"Execute Order Number 66." Wow. It was so hard watching all the Jedis going down.

~Obi Wan and Anakin's fight. You know how it ends, but still, to see it happen was incredible. Obi Wan crying, "You were my brother!" Oy.

~Anakin getting his armor/limbs/helmet/breathing thing. Wowza. Well done. And I got goosebumps as soon as I saw all the guys in the uniforms at the end of the movie, while the Emperor and Vader looked out at the semi-formed Death Star. I was thrilled. Wanted to go home and watch A New Hope.


Stuff I thought was just eh:

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~Anakin and Padme scenes. I wasn't all that thrilled by them. The only part of their conversations I really enjoyed or found interesting was their first one, when he said, "This is the happiest day of my life." I was particularly disappointed in their last encounter. Bah. I wanted a little something more from them. She really disappointed me for some reason.

~There were a few CGI things that icked me. When they landed the 1/2 ship at the beginning, it was so cool to get the close-up of Obi Wan and Anakin in the cockpit of the craft......but damn, they looked like cartoons. Ugh. I almost started laughing. Come on! You do all that incredible computer work, and leave that a mess? It would have been such a cool shot!


But that was it.....I really loved it. It wasn't the best movie in the world, but as Cassidy said, "It was the most important episode!" I totally agree.
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Old 05-20-2005, 12:00 AM   #56
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I learned tonight that I'm going to see it. Sure. But, it better be a good film on it's own because I'm not going back and watching those last 2 horrors again. Padme are you OK? Ugh.
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Old 05-20-2005, 07:42 AM   #57
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It isn’t societal, it's genetic.

After the movie:

My daughter (9) - Cried FOR Anakin. Walked out of the movie actually cursing "the guy that made that movie" for doing that to kids.

My son (12) - Said "I've waited my entire life for this, finally the bad guys win! Awesome!"

Made for some interesting discussions on the way home...
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:41 AM   #58
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Okay, I have to mention this because it was so bad.

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Emperor? Emperor!?

Obi-wan and Yoda return to Corusant and head straight to the Jedi Temple. They have not been to the senate where, at the same time, Palpatine is busy declaring his new Empire. And yet, Obi-wan calls him "Emperor". Twice! In later scenes with Little Orphan Annie, he goes back to calling him Chancellor. That's just...how do you screw that up?

Issue #2: Does this sound familiar to anyone?

LUKE
Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?

LEIA
Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.

Really, like the minute you were born? Man, she was one damned observant newborn if she could remember that her mother "was very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

Grrrr. That one's particularly irksome because Padme dying is integral to the story of the movie, and yet it completely contradicts that line in Jedi. Leia's mother lives, long enough for Leia to have memory of her.

And on the mildly annoying front...Chewbaca is friends with Yoda, but years later doesn't put a good word in to Han for Obi-wan and instead makes Obi-wan bargain for a ride? I swear, Lucas just didn't think these things through, he was too busy pandering to people. "I wanna see Chewbaca, I wanna see Chewbaca!" These movies would have been so much better if he hadn't forced these stupid little tie-ins that were so unnecessary.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:51 AM   #59
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A response to GD's RotJ continuity problem...

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I've heard it defended that in the post-Rebellion books, Leia has the ability to communicate with her twins in the womb. It's been explained away that Leia's eyes were open when they were born, and Luke's were closed, and that Leia had possibly been "communicating" with her mother in the womb. Weak argument, but an argument nonetheless.
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OK, enough will all the spoiler tags. The movie is out and if you don't want to know, well you know my position on that... So here we go lot's of details without the spoiler tags...


















"The force is strong in my family. I have it, my father has it, and my sister has it", Luke Skywalker. Though completely untrained Leia is "seeing" her mother through the force, just like Anakin and Luke see things. She just has no idea what the visions are and so thinks it's a memory.

Chewbaca MIGHT have heard of one "Obi-Won Kanobie" master and Jedi knight, but some guy named Ben from the back woods (so to speak) of Tatooine? I think not.

















































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Okay, I have to mention this because it was so bad.

Spoiler:

Emperor? Emperor!?

Obi-wan and Yoda return to Corusant and head straight to the Jedi Temple. They have not been to the senate where, at the same time, Palpatine is busy declaring his new Empire. And yet, Obi-wan calls him "Emperor". Twice! In later scenes with Little Orphan Annie, he goes back to calling him Chancellor. That's just...how do you screw that up?

Issue #2: Does this sound familiar to anyone?

LUKE
Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?

LEIA
Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.

Really, like the minute you were born? Man, she was one damned observant newborn if she could remember that her mother "was very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

Grrrr. That one's particularly irksome because Padme dying is integral to the story of the movie, and yet it completely contradicts that line in Jedi. Leia's mother lives, long enough for Leia to have memory of her.

And on the mildly annoying front...Chewbaca is friends with Yoda, but years later doesn't put a good word in to Han for Obi-wan and instead makes Obi-wan bargain for a ride? I swear, Lucas just didn't think these things through, he was too busy pandering to people. "I wanna see Chewbaca, I wanna see Chewbaca!" These movies would have been so much better if he hadn't forced these stupid little tie-ins that were so unnecessary.
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