Pledge of Allegiance ruled unconstitutional - Page 6

TigerLily · 09-17-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

I don't see a reason for it either, quite frankly. I would be interested in hearing other posters feelings as to why the pledge is necessary at all.

I don't think it's neccessary. It reminds of a cult chanting everytime I hear it. I refused to say it in school, refused to have my hand on my chest and refused to stand until I was forced to.

SacTown Chronic · 09-17-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

I just don't see why we need a pledge in ths first place - none-the-less have it recited by people too young to understand it, or even commit to it's ideals. Loyalty oaths are worthless, let's dump this one in its entirety.

My sentiments exactly.

Prudence · 09-17-2005, 02:48 PM

I think I already went on record against the daily chant by school children. I'm also against singing the national anthem before every event. I think the mass chant becomes a rote activity devoid of meaning. How many times have you seen "funny" videos of kids misunderstanding the words of the pledge? Or people forgetting the words to the national anthem? This deprives these rituals of their full power. They should be recited/sung in situations that are appropriate to their intrinsic solemnity.

And if I may be permitted to argue in the alternative: indoctrination is appropriate for church, not for government. In history class, students wonder why people under various regimes -- pick your favorite -- didn't "do something." I don't think we should give the impression that our country is always right, or that we stand behind our country (and its symbols) come what may.

Kevy Baby · 09-17-2005, 03:18 PM

I pledge allegiance to the Swank
of the Lounge of Tomorrow board
And to the irreverance for which it stands
One Swankdom, under Chris (and Fej and GD)
With Silliness and Mojo for all.

Not Afraid · 09-17-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I pledge allegiance to the Swank
of the Lounge of Tomorrow board
And to the irreverance for which it stands
One Swankdom, under Chris (and Fej and GD)
With Silliness and Mojo for all.

Why am I always forgotten¿ Out here in Chicago the homeless call me Biq Red!

Prudence · 09-17-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

With Silliness and Mojo for all.

But more for me!

PanTheMan · 09-17-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerLily

I don't think it's neccessary. It reminds of a cult chanting everytime I hear it. I refused to say it in school, refused to have my hand on my chest and refused to stand until I was forced to.

Well, the main point is that it shouldnt even be an issue. Don't you remember back when you said it? It was just part of the morning routine, and it was said so mechanically, for years I thought I was saying something about being invisible with liberty and Justice for all.

I was busy during that time admiring how Cute Jennifer McHugh was that morning....lol

MickeyLumbo · 09-17-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PanTheMan

Well, the main point is that it shouldnt even be an issue. Don't you remember back when you said it? It was just part of the morning routine, and it was said so mechanically, for years I thought I was saying something about being invisible with liberty and Justice for all.

I was busy during that time admiring how Cute Jennifer McHugh was that morning....lol

Totally agree - except his name wasn't Jennifer

PanTheMan · 09-18-2005, 08:40 PM

lol

were you looking at me Bum?.....lol

09-17-2005, 02:48 PM	#53
Prudence Beelzeboobs, Esq. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gavel - I haz it Posts: 6,287	I think I already went on record against the daily chant by school children. I'm also against singing the national anthem before every event. I think the mass chant becomes a rote activity devoid of meaning. How many times have you seen "funny" videos of kids misunderstanding the words of the pledge? Or people forgetting the words to the national anthem? This deprives these rituals of their full power. They should be recited/sung in situations that are appropriate to their intrinsic solemnity. And if I may be permitted to argue in the alternative: indoctrination is appropriate for church, not for government. In history class, students wonder why people under various regimes -- pick your favorite -- didn't "do something." I don't think we should give the impression that our country is always right, or that we stand behind our country (and its symbols) come what may. __________________ traguna macoities tracorum satis de
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I pledge allegiance to the Swank of the Lounge of Tomorrow board And to the irreverance for which it stands One Swankdom, under Chris (and Fej and GD) With Silliness and Mojo for all. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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PanTheMan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere between you, and just over there. Posts: 258	lol were you looking at me Bum?.....lol __________________ What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about? ....
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