"King Kong" - monkey talk and movie talk - Page 6

Gemini Cricket · 12-28-2005, 01:51 PM

You must spread some Mojo around before giving it to innerSpaceman again.

innerSpaceman · 12-30-2005, 12:18 PM

And the bigger hole than the plot one of having Kong sit on the ice for six hours is the ice one that would happen if Kong sat on the ice at all.

Ponds, like lakes, do not freeze solid. They freeze at the surface, and such ice would never support the weight of a 25-foot tall, 4 ton gorilla (holding a 93-pound Nicole-Kidman look-alike woman).

Not Afraid · 12-30-2005, 04:41 PM

UMMMMMMMM............ Brody's nose..........

innerSpaceman · 12-30-2005, 06:08 PM

Yes, the ice would not support the weight of Adrien Brody's nose either.

Not Afraid · 12-30-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And the bigger hole than the plot one of having Kong sit on the ice for six hours is the ice one that would happen if Kong sat on the ice at all.

Ponds, like lakes, do not freeze solid. They freeze at the surface, and such ice would never support the weight of a 25-foot tall, 4 ton gorilla (holding a 93-pound Nicole-Kidman look-alike woman).

No, the plot hole for me was why in the frick didn't she freeze to death in the cold dressed in a nightie.

€uroMeinke · 12-30-2005, 08:36 PM

For me suspension of disbelief starts with Kong - if I accept him the rest follows easily

Gemini Cricket · 12-31-2005, 06:50 AM

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For me suspension of disbelief starts with Kong - if I accept him the rest follows easily

I don't know about that. (It's funny that I'm debating Kong's weight here.)

In filmmaking, there is always an attempt at adding plausibility to what's presented. If his weight can crush a theatre balcony, then he should break through the ice. It's the way he's presented in the film. He's not magic.
I don't know it I'm making sense here. Just because we buy the idea of Kong, doesn't mean he doesn't have to conform to the rules just like everyone else being that he's in our world...

innerSpaceman · 12-31-2005, 05:49 PM

Yes, rules that the filmmaker himself shows Kong abiding by (very astute to point out that he crushed the theater balcony, GC).

Similarly, I will accept T-Rexes existing on skull island (even though they are regular size while apes and bugs are not), but I will not accept them swinging on vines.

Sometimes it's best not to push the belief-suspension envelope too far, lest it break ... and then ruin the suspension you might have otherwise achieved.

Now that I think of it, it was a mistake to have dinos be "normal size" while mammals and insects were radioactive-huge. True, the spider pit sequence was conceived for the original 1933 King Kong, but it was never included in the film. And the flying creatures played by vampire bats in the new version were portrayed by pterodactyls in the original. Thus Kong was the only giant creature on the island, and the conundrum of why some creatures were big while others were not was sidestepped through Kong being a singularity.

€uroMeinke · 12-31-2005, 06:55 PM

I guess the movie didn't make me think that much

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	And the bigger hole than the plot one of having Kong sit on the ice for six hours is the ice one that would happen if Kong sat on the ice at all. Ponds, like lakes, do not freeze solid. They freeze at the surface, and such ice would never support the weight of a 25-foot tall, 4 ton gorilla (holding a 93-pound Nicole-Kidman look-alike woman).
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	For me suspension of disbelief starts with Kong - if I accept him the rest follows easily __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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12-31-2005, 05:49 PM	#58
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes, rules that the filmmaker himself shows Kong abiding by (very astute to point out that he crushed the theater balcony, GC). Similarly, I will accept T-Rexes existing on skull island (even though they are regular size while apes and bugs are not), but I will not accept them swinging on vines. Sometimes it's best not to push the belief-suspension envelope too far, lest it break ... and then ruin the suspension you might have otherwise achieved. Now that I think of it, it was a mistake to have dinos be "normal size" while mammals and insects were radioactive-huge. True, the spider pit sequence was conceived for the original 1933 King Kong, but it was never included in the film. And the flying creatures played by vampire bats in the new version were portrayed by pterodactyls in the original. Thus Kong was the only giant creature on the island, and the conundrum of why some creatures were big while others were not was sidestepped through Kong being a singularity.
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	I guess the movie didn't make me think that much __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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