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Old 12-05-2008, 05:02 PM   #1
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*Settles in on the couch with a bucket of popcorn*

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Scoot over. Make room for me.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:05 PM   #2
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*Settles in on the couch with a bucket of popcorn*

"I gotta see this..."
Scoot over. Make room for me. So far I'm giving this thread a 7/10 but I think it could get better.

I really do enjoy an great discussion/debate by intelligent individuals. Don't stop now!
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:57 PM   #3
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Oh, I think we'll find Sir Dillon VERY entertaining, Prudence. Sit with me here on the couch.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:07 PM   #4
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My comment was more polite than you deserved. Out of respect for Wendybeth, that is as far as I shall go.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:12 PM   #5
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My comment was more polite than you deserved. Out of respect for Wendybeth, that is as far as I shall go.
Wow...

Your first response to me is to criticize me (i.e. attacking the messenger rather than the message); and when I carify my position in response to this criticism...you attack me, personally, yet again.

Hmmmm........

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Old 12-05-2008, 05:52 PM   #6
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Wow...

Your first response to me is to criticize me (i.e. attacking the messenger rather than the message); and when I carify my position in response to this criticism...you attack me, personally, yet again.

Hmmmm........

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Oh, don't act so shocked, sir. You came out swinging with great sweeping statements that seem to generalize all people who are religious. Yes, many people use religion as a weapon. And many others have not. Just like some atheists are respectful and some are not.

So don't be surprised, when you say snide things, when you receive statements in kind.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:02 PM   #7
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Oh, don't act so shocked, sir. You came out swinging with great sweeping statements that seem to generalize all people who are religious.
I made no such hasty generalizations...

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Yes, many people use religion as a weapon.
Nice of you to acknowledge this; how ironic though after you criticized me for doing no less.

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And many others have not. Just like some atheists are respectful and some are not.
Agreed.

Nevertheless, I argue, as self-evident by your and the other likeminded responses...you're interpreting this personally.

Neither the display nor I have made any specific declarations as to who individually or by group is what and is not regarding violence and religion.

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So don't be surprised, when you say snide things, when you receive statements in kind.
Your personal fallacious interpreation...as with theirs...and not what I stated (i.e. strawman argument).

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Old 12-05-2008, 05:11 PM   #8
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I know I said I'd step away but...if you ever credit me with anything Moonliner said again, I'll ban you so fast....
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:13 PM   #9
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I know I said I'd step away but...if you ever credit me with anything Moonliner said again, I'll ban you so fast....
My sincerest apologies...I stand corrected!

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Old 12-05-2008, 05:45 PM   #10
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The sign was made to piss people off and grab a few headlines. That's it.

I would be a much better statement if, like I said previously, it had a some charm and personality, some colorful lights perhaps or a fluffy bunny.
Ooh, a bunny!

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It says, "Religion is a myth that makes people worse."
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And personally, it's religion's focus on "you're a bad person" messages that I find most distasteful, so I don't particularly love the same being used to supposedly argue a a point against them.
Yeah, I wish they had done it more... tastefully, tactfully, not quite sure what I want, but a blunt "religion is stupid" probably won't win points with anybody. I'm no fan of organized religion, but this is maybe a bit much.

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The Governor of Washington State was merely allowing equal access to the Capitol to the atheist display as it did the religious display.

There is NO government funding involved.
OK so no gov't funding; that helps. It's still public property, though, so I still have some issues with religious anything there.

I'm hoping for some elegance, or such in future displays. There are ways to promote human reason and rationality without being crude and nasty.
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