All About McCain - Page 60

Ghoulish Delight · 09-09-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Brain fart.

F*ck, I must have been listening to Giuliani too much. 2 years before the invasion of Iraq, not 9/11. Yikes.

scaeagles · 09-09-2008, 03:01 PM

This all then leads to what people believe was deliberate misleading or falsification of intelligence by Bush. While it is true that the intelligence was bad, I do not believe it was intentionally falsified, which is the major argument of those who were for "doing something" now base their opposition on.

BarTopDancer · 09-09-2008, 03:07 PM

Wow, I had some good points.

innerSpaceman · 09-09-2008, 03:57 PM

I love when I'm right from the very start.

I can't get too worked up about it though, since it's always been that way and always will.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-09-2008, 04:14 PM

Hey, that thread is the birth of General You!

Morrigoon · 09-09-2008, 04:31 PM

Old threads are fun! I'd forgotten about my provocation idea. Still would've been a better plan. Wouldn't have changed the outcome any, however. But might've been better for our place in world politics.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-10-2008, 10:51 AM

Re: Palin's eBay story:

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From Sam Stein on Huffington Post

Twenty days after putting the jet online, the Palin administration had to reissue the listing. The minimum bid had not been met. By April, the jet still had not sold despite three additional attempts. Eventually, Palin signed a contract with an Anchorage aircraft broker to help succeed where eBay couldn't. In August 2007, eight months after it was first put on sale, the jet was sold to an Alaskan businessman for $2.1 million -- $600,000 shy of the purchasing price.

"The eBay thing didn't work out very well," Dan Spencer, director of administrative services for the Department of Public Safety (the individual charged with trying to get rid of the plane) told the Anchorage Daily News in April 2007. "I am [tired of dealing with it]," he added. "I don't know about anyone else."

Palin's stories of high ethics and virtue are melting away faster than the polar ice caps.

Moonliner · 09-10-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

Re: Palin's eBay story:

Palin's stories of high ethics and virtue are melting away faster than the polar ice caps.

I thought the point was that she sold the jet rather than using it. I don't see how the mechanics of the sale matter that much. She said she put it up on ebay and she did.

Tenigma · 09-10-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

Palin's stories of high ethics and virtue are melting away faster than the polar ice caps.

To give her credit I believe she said she "put it up on eBay" but she never said she actually managed to sell the thing, or at a profit. McCain said that (because I don't know, someone fed him incorrect information, he just assumed it, or he's, oh I don't know, addle-minded).

scaeagles · 09-10-2008, 11:00 AM

Being that I work in the property tax industry, including personal property, I'd like to point out that aircraft is a depreciating asset. The aircraft in question was purchased in 2005 and sold in 2007. While there are varying depreciation tables for aircraft, a common one in our system is 20% the first year, and 32% the second year. Considering they sold the plane for 22% less than the original purchase price, that's actually better than depreciation tables might suggest it should have sold for.

Also, I don't think she clained to have made a profit. It was that she got rid of it.

Edited to add - Now I see that Moonliner is beating me by mere minutes in terms of posting basically the same thing.

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Old threads are fun! I'd forgotten about my provocation idea. Still would've been a better plan. Wouldn't have changed the outcome any, however. But might've been better for our place in world politics. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Being that I work in the property tax industry, including personal property, I'd like to point out that aircraft is a depreciating asset. The aircraft in question was purchased in 2005 and sold in 2007. While there are varying depreciation tables for aircraft, a common one in our system is 20% the first year, and 32% the second year. Considering they sold the plane for 22% less than the original purchase price, that's actually better than depreciation tables might suggest it should have sold for. Also, I don't think she clained to have made a profit. It was that she got rid of it. Edited to add - Now I see that Moonliner is beating me by mere minutes in terms of posting basically the same thing.
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