The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 605

Alex · 04-28-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

My coworker found something last night that now the birthers want Hawai'i to prove it's a state. I'm alternately amused and seriously annoyed.

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

The "prove Hawai'i was a state" meme seems to be a joke generated by the left, as far as I can tell.

It may be a joke at, but that is actually an interesting angle of attack. Though the people of Hawai'i tend towards the liberal end of the spectrum, the question of the legitimacy of Hawaii's statehood is frequently brought up in secessionist circles, and at least a decade ago that was still a reasonably active movement.

So if the birthers do want to transfer to that issue, they'll find a extensive field of writing on the issue with some prominent "authentic actual Hawaiians" on record.

JWBear · 04-28-2011, 09:51 AM

They want Hawaii to prove it's a state?! Seriously?! WTF?!

BarTopDancer · 04-28-2011, 10:59 AM

They already get his panties in a twist that he goes ~~home~~ on vacation to HI all the time.

There's a great clip floating around (from the Daily Show) of Bill O'Riley trying to end the fringe lunacy. It's amusing.

JWBear · 04-28-2011, 11:30 AM

I was reading the comments (yeah... I know...) on a story about the long form release. One of the "birthers" wrote:

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If you are proficient with computers, pull up the birth certificate in Adobe and look at all the altercations.

Kevy Baby · 04-28-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

I was reading the comments (yeah... I know...) on a story about the long form release. One of the "birthers" wrote:

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If you are proficient with computers, pull up the birth certificate in Adobe and look at all the altercations.

Adobe Flash? Premiere? InDesign?

The program is called Acrobat (or Acrobat Reader if you just have the free one) people and it is put out by a company named Adobe.

(Sorry; pet peeve)

innerSpaceman · 04-28-2011, 12:38 PM

A piece I read this morning hit the nail on the head, imo. It's a brilliant piece of Obama strategy. Further marginalizes the GOP by having such idiots continue to bray about this. His remarks were right on the money. Americans don't give a flying fvck about this issue, but want the government to do something about, oh, how about JOBS!?

Most of the country is already PISSED at the Republicans for advancing their absurd social agenda while doing nothing to create jobs, and for trying to solve the deficit problem on the backs of people dependent on Medicare while giving tax breaks to the ultra-rich. The mood in this country has swung very anti-GOP, and this birther issue is now all theirs to deal with, and Obama has washed his hands of it.

Most in the GOP know this full well. Boener and several other Congresspersons issued statements yesterday that they are satisfied with the president's citizenship credentials. They are not stupid, and would like this issue to go away.

But it won't. Something like 45% of Republicans believed the president is not an American. Don't know how many of those small and ignorant minds were changed yesterday, but that's the constituency they're stuck with. And they're stuck with the likes of the Donald as the front runner because you have to be a whack-job these days to win a Republican primary. Problem is, whack-jobs can't win general elections.

So the Pres was happy to hand off this problem to them, while chiding them in public for doing ZIP about issues Americans actually care about.

Obama is sometimes a brilliant politician. I wish he were a better president -- but he's better than most of them have been in my 50 years. Yesterday was a good day for him. Smart man.

innerSpaceman · 04-28-2011, 02:43 PM

I mine roll anymore, I'll be able to see out of the back of my head - just like mothers everywhere!

Do the rightwing nutjobs know they're promoting gender reassignment??

Ghoulish Delight · 04-28-2011, 04:42 PM

Actually they were probably "thinking" photoshop

Alex · 04-28-2011, 05:14 PM

The claim is that it was edited in Illustrator and if you open the source PDF from the White House with Illustrator you can back out the edits.

flippyshark · 04-28-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

The claim is that it was edited in Illustrator and if you open the source PDF from the White House with Illustrator you can back out the edits.

And here is a plausible non-crazy explanation, from the conservative National Review yet.

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