Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 61

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-19-2006, 08:35 AM

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But what kind of access did you really have to media? With Netflix, blockbusters, Internet, cable and Tivo I think my kids have access to a lot more mature material than kids of your generation. Plus the content has changed. When I was a kid the only thing I was "forbidden" to watch was the three stooges. There was no nip-tuck or WWF coming into your home on a daily basis. TV, even basic cable was for the most part not too bad for kids but I do think the relentless violence, hate and adult issues you see on shows like the Shield or SVU is not something kids need to see.

I watched WWF for as long as I can remember. We got cable when I was 5, and my dad would watch softcore stuff on Cinemax and not mind if I watched with him. We were allowed as much TV as we wanted - we were allowed to stay up as late as we wanted on weekends - and my parents had no idea what we watched. None of this was questioned. I watched plenty of MTV and I believe I did ask my parents what a virgin was after seeing the Madonna video. My dad loves super violent and super scary movies and I watched everything with them. Don't tell me there weren't any violent, gory movies before 1990 - I've seen most of them! They never had babysitters, and we always went to bed late, so it's not like they saved anything to watch when we weren't around.

I'm not advocating this "parenting style" as I disagree with much of it now, but I still maintain that kids can handle a whole lot more than people realize. I also maintain that it's up to individuals to parent as they see fit.

DreadPirateRoberts · 07-19-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm not advocating this "parenting style" as I disagree with much of it now, but I still maintain that kids can handle a whole lot more than people realize.

CP, what do you disagree with? I'm grappling with this right now. We let our 4 year old (at the time) watch Pirates I, and I was concerned about the scary scenes, but he had no problem with them. At his age, I wasn't allowed to go on the ride. I haven't seen Pirates II yet, and I'm not sure if he should or not, I guess I'll need to decide after I've seen it.

Gemini Cricket · 07-19-2006, 06:31 AM

'Poltergeist' freaked me out as a kid. The face ripping part was too much for me. It made me gag.

My first rated R movie was 'Conan the Barbarian'. If I remember correctly.

scaeagles · 07-19-2006, 09:39 AM

I don't think there is any sort of formula. I have three kids with differing personalities and it must be a bit taylored to each of them.

As an example with DL attractions, my 12 year old, when 6, was afraid of the unknown (still is), but the attractions genuinely did not scare her. She'd go on something freaking out about it, get off and say something like "wow, that wasn't bad, it was cool" and want to go on it over and over. My current 6 year old isn't afriad of the unknown so much as he is genuinely scared when he gets off something and then doesn't want to go again. So with the elder, it is make her try it. With the younger it is think real hard if it will genuinely freak him out. My four year old fears nothing.

That translates into TV viewing as well wihin our family, within certain limits, of course.

Not Afraid · 07-19-2006, 09:41 AM

Rides, attractions, experiences - I wasn't shielded, but I was fearless. Nudity and violence......I was SHOCKED the first time I saw at nipple on the big screen. I thought people were arrested if they showed that. (The film was Ryan's Daughter.)

Alex · 07-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Just watched Fitzcarraldo without knowing anything about it other than being directed by Werner Herzog (which is why I've had it from Netflix for about 3 months and am only now watching it).

There are a couple visually interesting scenes that they actually did rather than using models. Which is a waste since I just assumed they were models anyway.

Kinski is always interesting to watch work. In looking it up I see that Jason Robards was originally supposed to play the role and boy would that have been a different result.

SacTown Chronic · 07-19-2006, 05:35 PM

Couple years ago the kids and I were channel surfing when we came across Led Zepplin's The Song Remains The Same right when they were performing Stairway to Heaven so we stop to watch.

Well, Robert Plant was wearing some tight spandex and no underwear that day, tell you what. It was all outlined for the cameras: mushroom, shaft, balls. My how we giggled like schoolgirls (even Cat, the schoolgirl). Every movement or motion caused another fit of laughter from the immature SacTown Clan.

Good clean family fun.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-19-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

Couple years ago the kids and I were channel surfing when we came across Led Zepplin's The Song Remains The Same right when they were performing Stairway to Heaven so we stop to watch.

Well, Robert Plant was wearing some tight spandex and no underwear that day, tell you what. It was all outlined for the cameras: mushroom, shaft, balls. My how we giggled like schoolgirls (even Cat, the schoolgirl). Every movement or motion caused another fit of laughter from the immature SacTown Clan.

Good clean family fun.

This is totally a page out of my family's book.

Not Afraid · 07-19-2006, 05:27 PM

I love Fitzcaraldo. It was filmed in the jungles of Peru and in the town of Iquitos. I visited Iquitos few years after Fitzcarraldo was made, so I have a bond with it. I also love Klaus Kinsky (but that's more of a Nosferatu thing).

This film also heightened my appreciation of white linen suits.

Alex · 07-19-2006, 05:32 PM

I mostly enjoyed the film except for two things:

1) It has all the bad things (in my opinion) about a Werner Herzog movie. I'm generally ok with slowly paced films but Herzog seems to feel that there is no reason to say nothing in 90 seconds when you could do it in 5 minutes. I could have done with few long shots of the boat cruising around a bend in the river.

2) The whole endeavor is ultimately rendered meaningless but him doing what he could have done from the beginning of the movie. I know that was much of the point, but still it made me feel like I'd watched 40 long shots of a boat going around a bend (metaphor!) for not good reason.

07-19-2006, 06:31 AM	#3
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	'Poltergeist' freaked me out as a kid. The face ripping part was too much for me. It made me gag. My first rated R movie was 'Conan the Barbarian'. If I remember correctly.
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07-19-2006, 09:39 AM	#4
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I don't think there is any sort of formula. I have three kids with differing personalities and it must be a bit taylored to each of them. As an example with DL attractions, my 12 year old, when 6, was afraid of the unknown (still is), but the attractions genuinely did not scare her. She'd go on something freaking out about it, get off and say something like "wow, that wasn't bad, it was cool" and want to go on it over and over. My current 6 year old isn't afriad of the unknown so much as he is genuinely scared when he gets off something and then doesn't want to go again. So with the elder, it is make her try it. With the younger it is think real hard if it will genuinely freak him out. My four year old fears nothing. That translates into TV viewing as well wihin our family, within certain limits, of course.
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07-19-2006, 09:41 AM	#5
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Rides, attractions, experiences - I wasn't shielded, but I was fearless. Nudity and violence......I was SHOCKED the first time I saw at nipple on the big screen. I thought people were arrested if they showed that. (The film was Ryan's Daughter.)
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07-19-2006, 05:18 PM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Just watched Fitzcarraldo without knowing anything about it other than being directed by Werner Herzog (which is why I've had it from Netflix for about 3 months and am only now watching it). There are a couple visually interesting scenes that they actually did rather than using models. Which is a waste since I just assumed they were models anyway. Kinski is always interesting to watch work. In looking it up I see that Jason Robards was originally supposed to play the role and boy would that have been a different result.
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07-19-2006, 05:35 PM	#7
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Couple years ago the kids and I were channel surfing when we came across Led Zepplin's The Song Remains The Same right when they were performing Stairway to Heaven so we stop to watch. Well, Robert Plant was wearing some tight spandex and no underwear that day, tell you what. It was all outlined for the cameras: mushroom, shaft, balls. My how we giggled like schoolgirls (even Cat, the schoolgirl). Every movement or motion caused another fit of laughter from the immature SacTown Clan. Good clean family fun.
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07-19-2006, 05:27 PM	#9
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I love Fitzcaraldo. It was filmed in the jungles of Peru and in the town of Iquitos. I visited Iquitos few years after Fitzcarraldo was made, so I have a bond with it. I also love Klaus Kinsky (but that's more of a Nosferatu thing). This film also heightened my appreciation of white linen suits.
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07-19-2006, 05:32 PM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I mostly enjoyed the film except for two things: 1) It has all the bad things (in my opinion) about a Werner Herzog movie. I'm generally ok with slowly paced films but Herzog seems to feel that there is no reason to say nothing in 90 seconds when you could do it in 5 minutes. I could have done with few long shots of the boat cruising around a bend in the river. 2) The whole endeavor is ultimately rendered meaningless but him doing what he could have done from the beginning of the movie. I know that was much of the point, but still it made me feel like I'd watched 40 long shots of a boat going around a bend (metaphor!) for not good reason.
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