The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 610

JWBear · 06-09-2011, 11:46 AM

Seriously!

JWBear · 06-09-2011, 12:21 PM

It's just an expression, and is not meant to be taken literally. It's something we Humans do sometimes. I'm sorry if that confuses you.

Alex · 06-09-2011, 12:41 PM

Oh, I'm sure you couldn't confuse me. I know it is just an expression, it just sparked curiosity into the moment as to why we waste time saying things that don't actually have any value. In saying what you said you meant to suggest "this is true." But you cloak it in some "it's a joke" phrasing as if that means people under the umbrella you were speaking about should then no longer care about the "this is true" half of the statement.

So really, I wasn't so much confused as pointing out that you really shouldn't feel safe to crawl back into your standard defense of "it was just a joke when I said mean things about people who have affiliations you just happen to have, how can you be upset?"

JWBear · 06-09-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Oh, I'm sure you couldn't confuse me. I know it is just an expression, it just sparked curiosity into the moment as to why we waste time saying things that don't actually have any value. In saying what you said you meant to suggest "this is true." But you cloak it in some "it's a joke" phrasing as if that means people under the umbrella you were speaking about should then no longer care about the "this is true" half of the statement.

So really, I wasn't so much confused as pointing out that you really shouldn't feel safe to crawl back into your standard defense of "it was just a joke when I said mean things about people who have affiliations you just happen to have, how can you be upset?"

Ok. Whatever.

BarTopDancer · 06-09-2011, 01:31 PM

I miss the days when the pledge was:

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I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the republic for which he stands
one nation, under God, invisible and with liberty and juice for all.

Brendan · 06-09-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I miss the days when the pledge was:

The original was "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all," written by a Socialist, and used in a magazine to sell flags to schools on Columbus day. Mad Men 1892, baby. Yesterday's marketing is today's dogma. Other successful vintage ad campaigns include the diamonds as the only true symbol of love and the inextricable link between freedom and automobile ownership.

Kevy Baby · 06-09-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Kevy, what are you taking?

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Seriously!

Just conducting an experiment.

BarTopDancer · 06-10-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

The original was...

I know what the original pledge was. Did you see all my incorrect words?

Brendan · 06-10-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I know what the original pledge was. Did you see all my incorrect words?

Oh, sure, you can miss any of the versions you like. I just want to point out that it's little more than a marketing slogan from 120 years ago.

sleepyjeff · 06-10-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

The original was "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all," written by a Socialist, and used in a magazine to sell flags to schools on Columbus day. Mad Men 1892, baby. Yesterday's marketing is today's dogma.

I didn't know Socialists were capable of "marketing".

Learn something new everyday I guess

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Oh, I'm sure you couldn't confuse me. I know it is just an expression, it just sparked curiosity into the moment as to why we waste time saying things that don't actually have any value. In saying what you said you meant to suggest "this is true." But you cloak it in some "it's a joke" phrasing as if that means people under the umbrella you were speaking about should then no longer care about the "this is true" half of the statement. So really, I wasn't so much confused as pointing out that you really shouldn't feel safe to crawl back into your standard defense of "it was just a joke when I said mean things about people who have affiliations you just happen to have, how can you be upset?"
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