The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Prudence]

I curious what the alternative would be. If deportation is the wrong policy, what is the right policy? No immigration limits at all? No immigration limits for people from countries where the average income is less than here? A policy that says you should apply through official channels but if you can get here without that you can stay? Something I haven't thought of?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Prudence

I curious what the alternative would be. If deportation is the wrong policy, what is the right policy?

I keep reading "If decapitation is the....".

[Nephythys]

Not enough mojo to go around.

[Prudence]

Don't make me start referencing snowcone concessions in this thread, too!

[€uroMeinke]

You know every year tre population in California grows from people moving here from other states - why do we let this happen unchecked? I bet many of the homeless were born in other places, they just came here to get out of the cold. Maybe we should deport people back to the dust bowl?

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

You know every year tre population in California grows from people moving here from other states - why do we let this happen unchecked? I bet many of the homeless were born in other places, they just came here to get out of the cold. Maybe we should deport people back to the dust bowl?

Conversly, imagine the dent we could possibly make in helping the homeless, who are our citizens, if the illegal immigration process did not strain every social service we have.

Now granted, I'm not saying that if we didn't have an illegal immigration problem, we wouldn't have a homeless problem, but it seems logical that we could improve their situation.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

You know every year tre population in California grows from people moving here from other states - why do we let this happen unchecked? I bet many of the homeless were born in other places, they just came here to get out of the cold. Maybe we should deport people back to the dust bowl?

Unfortunately, that isn't true. Every year since 1990 or so has seen a net domestic migration out of California (here are the numbers; you can get them from the source at the U.S. Census web site but it requires more poking around and search queries as near as I can tell).

Since 1990 the entire population growth of California has been from internal reproduction, legal foreign immigration, and illegal foreign immigration.

[€uroMeinke]

So Condoms must be our first line of defense

[Alex]

I was thinking more along the lines of "kill the breeders" or at least forced sterilization. Just think how much better Disneyland would be if they stopped filling the place up with kids.

Actually, one thing that is interesting in those numbers is that even though the total population of California is about 50% higher than in 1981 the total number of births and deaths isn't all that much higher. That has nothing to do with immigration. Just found it interesting.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Best (i.e., worst) line of the day yesterday. In response to the report in USA Today that the government has been collecting entire databases of phone call data, Senator Jeff Sessions from Alabama had this to day:

"Let's talk about this in a rational way. We are in a war with terrorism."

Am I the only one who sees how absolutely ridiculous that statement is?