Get It Off Your (Dead Man's) Chest: Pirates Movie Reviews - Page 7

Ghoulish Delight · 07-10-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Something I missed...

Swann handcuffs Jack to the ship? Why? Didn't he just return Han Solo style and helped save them?

I was going to say "because she knew the Kraken would follow him if he came along"...but then it ocurred to me that it wasn't exactly following him as he started to row away. Hmmmm....

LSPoorEeyorick · 07-10-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Something I missed...

Swann handcuffs Jack to the ship? Why? Didn't he just return Han Solo style and helped save them?

I though it was because the Kraken was after Jack and Jack alone-- and since the Kraken doesn't seem to be ALL that bright, would probably not have gone after Jack's rowboat (but WOULD go after the Pearl.) If Jack alone was on the Pearl, the Kraken would have had no reason to go after the rest of the crew. If Jack loaded them on the rowboat and boarded with them (as I suspect he was going to do) then the Pearl AND the rowboat would have been attacked once Davy Jones realized Sparrow wasn't onboard the sunken Pearl.

Clear as mud? Yep.

I too was befuddled by the implied Jack/Elizabeth. Ecch.

Gemini Cricket · 07-10-2006, 08:49 AM

Clear as coffee... er... rum.

Alex · 07-10-2006, 09:05 AM

The kraken doesn't seem to be very discriminating. After all, the first boat we see it destroy was simply in possession of Jack's hat.

The Top 214 All-Time Leaders for Biggest Drop In Second Weekend Box Office as Percentage of First Weekend Box Office.

#1 for a movie that made more than $50 million its first weekend is Hulk (40th overall) which dropped 70% the next weekend. That is powerfully bad word of mouth. #2 (72nd overall) for films over $50 million is X-Men: The Last Stand which dropped 66%. #3 (132nd) is 2 Fast 2 Furious. #4 (140th) is Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

If you're watching the box office game is that PotCCM will probably pass Superman Returns in overall box office after today doing in 4 days what that movie did in 12. Superman's 58% second-weekend drop will not get it onto the list above.

scaeagles · 07-10-2006, 09:11 AM

What a great listing. Fun to read. Thanks, Alex.

Mary Blairiffic · 07-10-2006, 09:13 AM

I liked it. I wasn't blown away, but really enjoyed it.

Capt. Jack -- not as many funny moments, but still a delight and sexy as all spit. His entrance is creepy and brilliant and funny all at the same time.

Those Pretty British Kids -- felt like there was even more of a storyline for them, although they're rarely together in the film. And Keira's got moxie!

Davy Jones -- stole the show for me. Bill Nighy acted so believably through what has to be the most original use of CGI and make-up I've ever seen.

The Flying Dutchman -- I kept thinking, "How can they incorporate THIS into the ride?!" Flippin' awesome.

Make-up, Special Effects, Art Direction: ALL must be nominated for Oscar, or else the Academy should meet the fate of many of Davy Jones's victims.

Hoodoo -- I really liked how they incorporated this into the story. I hope they'll continue using this through the 3rd installment. Loved the Blue Bayou and kept listening for the banjo, but knew it wouldn't be there.

My only negative comment is that #2 felt like a warm-up in some ways to the third and final installment. I know they filmed 2 and 3 at the same time, so this sorta makes sense. But I left with a feeling that I should be able to tune in tomorrow to see the next episode. Instead I'll have to wait at least a year, so that made me poopy.

All in all, if you weigh a little less Johnny vs. a whole lotta Davy Jones and company, it makes for a film just as good as the first.

Oh -- and the kraken.

I am witlessly afraid of Monstro. I'm afeared of any big underwater creature who might swallow my whole house. I needed to take many deep breaths when the kraken reared its tentacles.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-10-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark

What's the story behind "throw me a roll?" Just hazarding a guess, is this something people shout out to Blue Bayou diners as they cruise by in their boats? Are there people here guilty of such shenanigans, and if so, did it work?

Yes, quite the common line among our crew of ill-repute as we make way past the bayou. No, it never works, though one of these days we'll have to float past while someone we know is having dinner at the water's edge...that could be fun.

Alex · 07-10-2006, 09:15 AM

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Instead I'll have to wait at least a year, so that made me poopy.

Only 11 months. They've decided to open At World's End over Memorial Day weekend.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-10-2006, 09:20 AM

Going back to Alex's proposal that it's simply the repetition of the same style vs. an actual change/drop in quality that those of us who don't like it are perceiving...I heartily disagree. While I think I would have disliked Dead Man's Chest less if it were the first installment, I never would have liked it as much as I like the actual first movie. There is a qualitative difference between the two that goes beyond a lack of newness. Punchlines instead of humor. Plot, instead of storytelling. Charicatures instead of characters. And an overall theory of "bigger/more must be better".

Mary Blairiffic · 07-10-2006, 09:28 AM

Number Three opens Memorial Day weekend '07? Oh goodie. Thanks for letting me know, Alex!

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The kraken doesn't seem to be very discriminating. After all, the first boat we see it destroy was simply in possession of Jack's hat. The Top 214 All-Time Leaders for Biggest Drop In Second Weekend Box Office as Percentage of First Weekend Box Office. #1 for a movie that made more than $50 million its first weekend is Hulk (40th overall) which dropped 70% the next weekend. That is powerfully bad word of mouth. #2 (72nd overall) for films over $50 million is X-Men: The Last Stand which dropped 66%. #3 (132nd) is 2 Fast 2 Furious. #4 (140th) is Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. If you're watching the box office game is that PotCCM will probably pass Superman Returns in overall box office after today doing in 4 days what that movie did in 12. Superman's 58% second-weekend drop will not get it onto the list above.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	What a great listing. Fun to read. Thanks, Alex.
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07-10-2006, 09:13 AM	#66
Mary Blairiffic Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The greater Chicagoland area Posts: 77	Yo Ho! Thar be sexy pirates ahead ... and slimy ones I liked it. I wasn't blown away, but really enjoyed it. Capt. Jack -- not as many funny moments, but still a delight and sexy as all spit. His entrance is creepy and brilliant and funny all at the same time. Those Pretty British Kids -- felt like there was even more of a storyline for them, although they're rarely together in the film. And Keira's got moxie! Davy Jones -- stole the show for me. Bill Nighy acted so believably through what has to be the most original use of CGI and make-up I've ever seen. The Flying Dutchman -- I kept thinking, "How can they incorporate THIS into the ride?!" Flippin' awesome. Make-up, Special Effects, Art Direction: ALL must be nominated for Oscar, or else the Academy should meet the fate of many of Davy Jones's victims. Hoodoo -- I really liked how they incorporated this into the story. I hope they'll continue using this through the 3rd installment. Loved the Blue Bayou and kept listening for the banjo, but knew it wouldn't be there. My only negative comment is that #2 felt like a warm-up in some ways to the third and final installment. I know they filmed 2 and 3 at the same time, so this sorta makes sense. But I left with a feeling that I should be able to tune in tomorrow to see the next episode. Instead I'll have to wait at least a year, so that made me poopy. All in all, if you weigh a little less Johnny vs. a whole lotta Davy Jones and company, it makes for a film just as good as the first. Oh -- and the kraken. I am witlessly afraid of Monstro. I'm afeared of any big underwater creature who might swallow my whole house. I needed to take many deep breaths when the kraken reared its tentacles.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Going back to Alex's proposal that it's simply the repetition of the same style vs. an actual change/drop in quality that those of us who don't like it are perceiving...I heartily disagree. While I think I would have disliked Dead Man's Chest less if it were the first installment, I never would have liked it as much as I like the actual first movie. There is a qualitative difference between the two that goes beyond a lack of newness. Punchlines instead of humor. Plot, instead of storytelling. Charicatures instead of characters. And an overall theory of "bigger/more must be better". __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Mary Blairiffic Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The greater Chicagoland area Posts: 77	Number Three opens Memorial Day weekend '07? Oh goodie. Thanks for letting me know, Alex!
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