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Old 01-19-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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In 1989, a temperature of -8 F was recorded in Canoga Park. This year's downright balmy.
Now that you mention Canoga Park, it makes me curious. Any chance we attended the same elementary school?
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:11 AM   #2
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Now that you mention Canoga Park, it makes me curious. Any chance we attended the same elementary school?
Nope, I lived further west, other side of Falbrook (now technically West Hills ) and went to Welby Way.

Your school, however, is less than a mile from CP's parents' house.
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:47 PM   #3
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Just like the "average" rainfall is on a cycle here in So Cal as well. They say, on average, that we have a drought every seven years. But the slide is incramental, so the years before and after the drought are low in rainfall also. And at the other end is flooding. Of course there are little exception blips that would cause bumbs in a graph, but in gerneral, we have a seven year cycle.

And this also effects the life cycles of plants and animals. There is a seven year boom of rabbits due to the growth of plants durring the rainy season, and they die off durring drought.

I think everything on earth works this way, and patterns would be noticable with enough information. And take decades or mellinia rather than years, and we may see weather patterns of mini ice ages, ozone depletions, mean global temperature changes, and greenhouse gas increases as well. Not to mention asteroids and volcanic eruptions that changed weather.

What does all of this mean? Hell, I don't know. I just think it is interesting, and anyone that whats to draw any kind of conclusions from a small sample of information should be very carefull.

That is all.....
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:31 PM   #4
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Temperature is one thing. Snow is another.

Canoga Park has elevation. Westwood is at sea level.
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Old 01-19-2007, 09:25 AM   #5
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Temperature is one thing. Snow is another.

Canoga Park has elevation. Westwood is at sea level.
Okay, it's a whole 600 ft. difference in elevation. Congratulations, you win that particular frozen pissing match.

I'm not trying to win some "my winter was colder than your winter" competition. I'm just getting tired of hearing, "OMG this is the coldest it's ever been!" and, "There hasn't been weather like this in 60 year!" and, "It's the apocalypse!" everywhere I turn.

If, in my short span of existence, I can remember off the top of my head winters that were at best incrementally better (or more realistically, just as bad in different ways), such as a winter with snow and temperatures of -8 degrees at near sea level (as far as I've seen, nowhere with an elevation under 1000ft has come even CLOSE to -8 this year), then this is hardly unprecedented, apocalyptic weather. It's people with short memories. And if I can pull that up from memory, I can only imagine that there are plenty more examples if one were to actually look up the historical weather data.

But I guess people somehow feel better if they convince themselves they're living through the worst winter ever. *shrug*
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:38 PM   #6
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My windshield has not caused me any problems this week. It is just way to dry here for the ice to form. Instead, I am getting a bunch of little tiny crystals. They almost look like snow flakes, until you realize that you are in Bakersfield and it hasn't snowed in 8 years.

I just showed Nick all of the ice driving videos, to educate him on why ice in the road can be so dangerous.
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Excuse me, but where is Canoga Park again?
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:24 PM   #8
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Excuse me, but where is Canoga Park again?
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:48 PM   #9
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We put our car in the garage, so we've not had to scrape this year.

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Old 01-19-2007, 09:49 AM   #10
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Well, I may have memory problems ... but it's never snowed in my part of town in the 30 years I've lived here. I'm not claiming the snow made it West L.A.'s worst winter ever ... far from it: It was delightful.

But it was highly unusual. As is the week-of-winter, week-of-summer pattern we've been having lately. Perhaps the sky isn't falling, and no single weather event or pattern can be attributed directly to global warming. But the type of unusual weather events happening all over the U.S. and the world are exactly the types of weather events science predicted for this time frame of the global warming phenomena. And if those predictions continue to bear out, the sky will only seem like it's falling because the sea level will have risen so high. My area of West L.A. will see no more snow ... because it will be under water.
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