Smoking in France a thing of the past?

[alphabassettgrrl]

I could accept an exception for those places that are based on tobacco use- the cigar shop that served food, or the water-pipe bars mentioned in the original article. If tobacco is the *point* of going there, it's easily avoided by those of us who choose to.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

I could accept an exception for those places that are based on tobacco use- the cigar shop that served food, or the water-pipe bars mentioned in the original article. If tobacco is the *point* of going there, it's easily avoided by those of us who choose to.

Then you will see the natural evolution of restaurants opening up with a tobacco bar as a way to skirt the "no smoking" laws.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Then you will see the natural evolution of restaurants opening up with a tobacco bar as a way to skirt the "no smoking" laws.

I think a lot of us have gotten quite used to the nonsmoking atmosphere of food, and will avoid anything that has tobacco associated with it.

Or if the tobacco part is actually separated from the nonsmoking part, then it would be ok by me. As long as I can choose to avoid it, smoking doesn't bother me. It's only because it's so unavoidable, that it's objectionable.

Maybe a geographic zoning of some kind- places here can have smoking, places here can't. As long as the zones are made small enough that people have access to both at any given point of the city, that might be ok.

[Stan4dSteph]

Originally Posted by Alex

Not exactly on point, but in the slippery slope direction:

Here is a man who was denied a work visa in New Zealand because he was overweight and a potential burden to their national health care program. He lost went and then was allowed in. Presumably Samoans are not allowed to move there.

NZ has a pretty complex immigration system and you get points based on all kinds of criteria. You have to undergo a medical exam. I'm not too shocked at this. It's another one of those things, "can't get a visa? Go find a job somewhere else."

I believe there's a whole different set of restrictions regarding Pacific Islanders.

[Alex]

Oh, I'm not saying it isn't a rational decision. That is the nature of the slippery slope. Based on the previous decisions the next one doesn't so odd any more.