Lost!

[innerSpaceman]

Ah, that's interesting to know.


Ok, I have a question:

I missed that much loathed Kate episode, so maybe that's where it happened - but where and how (and what was the reaction) did the Losties who were in Dharma Times before the nuke-meets-energy pocket incident that concluded Season 5 find out they were all transported forward in time 33 years to the "present"? (even though some of them had only gone back 30 years to reach Dharma Times and others had gone back 33).

Anyway, was there some moment of discovery, much less explanation for this?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Ah, that's interesting to know.


Ok, I have a question:

I missed that much loathed Kate episode, so maybe that's where it happened - but where and how (and what was the reaction) did the Losties who were in Dharma Times before the nuke-meets-energy pocket incident that concluded Season 5 find out they were all transported forward in time 33 years to the "present"? (even though some of them had only gone back 30 years to reach Dharma Times and others had gone back 33).

Anyway, was there some moment of discovery, much less explanation for this?

I believe it was when they found the blown Swan "hatch", proving that not only had the hatch been built, but that they had been there to blow it up. There was plenty of anger, especially Sawyer pointing a finger at Jack for Juliet's needless death (though she wasn't quite dead yet, they tried to save her and then she died and Sawyer was extra pissed.)

[JWBear]

They kinda realized immediately when they woke up (most of them, anyway) in the whole that was created when Desmond turned the failsafe key, and the station blew up.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Lost is kinda losing me.

I'm not digging the Island storyline these days, and isn't that the whole friggin' point? I don't love that our merry band is breaking up into factions. I realized last night that I *hate* that John Locke is dead and this Smoke Monster Locke is all that's left of him. Because he's a little lame.

I always liked that our Lost folk were trapped in between these warring parties, and I guess I was kind of hoping that our beloved characters would band together and say, "You know what, **** this! We aren't your pawns and this isn't our war. And the war is lame to begin with!" So the fact that they seem to be splitting up our beloved characters into two factions, and that we may really be in for a sort of GOOD vs EVIL battle just leaves me a bit sad and bored.

And, I know, I know. I suppose the writers/producers were generally headed in this direction and I shouldn't have assumed otherwise, but it all seem so heavy, stupidly handled. Like once upon a time they were inspired by Slaughterhouse 5 and now they're inspired by bad adventure serials, and not in a good way. (Indian Jones, for example, was a good way.)

All these little rules (the Japanese man being the only thing - for some unexplained reason - keeping out the Smoke Monster) seem so tossed in and pointless.

And I continue to be more interested (and this does shock me) in the alternate storyline. Sayid's storyline was awesome. Sayid on the Island? Evil Mirrorverse Sayid? It just make me feel embarrassed for him for some reason.

Of course I'm in for the ride. I've loved the show and I want to see how it all turns out. But the sci-fi elements of the show, which I love (parallel universes, becoming displaced in time, etc.), are now taking a serious back seat to the stuff i care less about (overly Christian good vs evil symbolism and characters, etc.). I feel like I'm reliving my Battlestar Gallactica experience right now, and that final season left me very, very soured on that entire series.

There were moments last night where I felt like I was watching The Land of the Lost. Seriously. LAND OF THE LOST! And the music is bugging the **** out of me lately. I have always loved the score for the show and now it all sounds like the Indiana Jones ride music at Disneyland. Seriously. THE INDIANA JONES RIDE! So disappointing.

Holding out hope, but not loving it at all right now.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

So the fact that they seem to be splitting up our beloved characters into two factions, and that we may really be in for a sort of GOOD vs EVIL battle just leaves me a bit sad and bored.

The shows been all about splitting the losties up into factions. Beach vs. cave. Push the button vs. don't push the button. Follow Locke vs. follow Jack. It's more literal and divisive this season, but it's been a running theme through the entire series.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The shows been all about splitting the losties up into factions. Beach vs. cave. Push the button vs. don't push the button. Follow Locke vs. follow Jack. It's more literal and divisive this season, but it's been a running theme through the entire series.

I'm aware of that. At this point I'm only referring to the group that's currently whittled down. At this point I have little to no interest watching Sayid, Sawyer, Claire, etc. following Smoke Monster Locke and the rest following whomever...Jack? I know it's been about one group vs another, but previously it all seemed very well thought out, and what motivated characters to choose one side or the other was interesting. Sawyer's reasoning? That makes sense to me. That bores me less. Evil Claire / Evil Sayid? That just seems like a tossed stupid salad. The writing just seems bad this season.

[innerSpaceman]

I've always found the off-island stuff more interesting. I admire the writers for coming up with a different method each season of having off-island stuff (flashbacks, flash-forwards, literally off the island, sideways alternate reality).

I'm personally positive it's this dramatic gimmick that's driving the choice of story lines and not the other way around. That's alright with me. Island alone would get boring real fast, and the writers know that.

What they don't seem to know is how to wrap up the series with a tenth the talent they've exhibited in having it flow along with no obligations. D'uh. Didn't everyone but the most kool-aid swilling see this coming?


BUT - most seasons have finished way better than they started. I hope it starts improving real, REAL soon.

Because this time the Island stuff is far worse than usual, and I'm not finding the sideways universe all that interesting either.

[scaeagles]

Tonight's episode sure had the feel of an episode from an earlier season. I quite enjoyed it (not that I'm not enjoying this season).

I do have a question because try as I might I can't recall....what happened to Danielle Rousseau? Do we know?

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Tonight's episode sure had the feel of an episode from an earlier season. I quite enjoyed it (not that I'm not enjoying this season).

I do have a question because try as I might I can't recall....what happened to Danielle Rousseau? Do we know?

She was shot by Keamy while trying to get Karl and Alex to safety at the temple. (Immediately before marching Alex back to the barracks where she was shot in front of Ben.)

[RStar]

I thought Daniel was shot by his mother? But then again, I'm so confused that I'm not sure what year it is on the Island now. Is it still 1977? How'd the non 815 survivors (including Lapidus) all get to the same time? Is UnLocke Jacob? Is Jacob Smokey? Isn't the man in black smokey? Are there two smokeys, one good one bad?

I'm so confused!

However, I had one thought. If smokey can make itself into Locke, then could it also have made itself into all of the other dead or impossible to be on the island people like Jack's dad, Locke's dad, and Claire's dad? That would explain those impossiblities!