The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[scaeagles]

Gotta love Harry Reid. He takes free ring side seats from the Nevada Athletic Commission while he is considering federal legislation on boxing.

If he comes out and says "It was poor judgement", I'd give the guy a break. But this is remarkable - and pretty stupid - spin.

Reid defended the gifts, saying they would never influence his position on the bill and was simply trying to learn how his legislation might affect an important home state industry.

(link to article quoted from)

So to understand the affect he has have $1500 ring side seats?

[Moonliner]

I could also see people complaining if he was involved with making decisions on boxing without doing some first hand investigations.

What I did have a question about was this comment

Originally Posted by Boxing Dude

"Anyone from Nevada would say I'm glad he is there taking care of the state's No. 1 businesses," he told The Associated Press.

The states No. 1 Business? Boxing? I'll give you 10-2 odds that there is another (albeit somewhat related) business that would lay claim to the #1 spot in Nevada.

[Gemini Cricket]

[SacTown Chronic]

And we sit around twiddling our thumbs while we complain about corruption from those we send to Washington.


Bob Knight sez, "If rape is inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it". Words to live by as far as the American electorate is concerned.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

And we sit around twiddling our thumbs while we complain about corruption from those we send to Washington.

I didn't vote for him. I didn't vote for him twice.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I could also see people complaining if he was involved with making decisions on boxing without doing some first hand investigations.

So you need $1500 ring side sets for first hand investigation? And more than once? I would suggest there might be differing ways to do such investigations.

I also will note that McCain was there. I am no McCain fan (in fact if it is Hillary vs. McCain in 2008 I have no idea what the hell I will do). At least he had the sense to pay for the tickets himself. While just having the opportunity to acquire such seats is a perk, it at least isn't as bad.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I am no McCain fan (in fact if it is Hillary vs. McCain in 2008 I have no idea what the hell I will do).

Do you mean to suggest that it is even remotely possible that you would vote for Hillary as opposed to McCain?

What am I misreading here?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Do you mean to suggest that it is even remotely possible that you would vote for Hillary as opposed to McCain?

What am I misreading here?

I think Hillary is more honest than McCain. I think I have a better idea what to expect from Hillary than from McCain. I think McCain will do more to harm true conservatism than Bush has. I think McCain will undo the things Bush has done that I like. I think McCain will bend over backwards to win the primaries by promising conservatism, which he will have to do during the primary to win it, and won't follow through on them and will change his tune more than any other politician ever has during the general.

So yes, it is remotely possible. I do not want a President that will continue to erode what the republican party used to stand for. I'd rather have a liberal President that I would expect liberal things from that perhaps can rally conservatives to actually be conservative once again.

I suppose it is also likely - and the thought of doing this almost makes me more sick than voting for either Hillary or McCain - that I may not vote at all.

[scaeagles]

I don't think voting for someone means that you lose justification to complain about them.

I voted for Bush. Twice, though not in the 2000 primary (he ran unopposed in 04). I complain about things he does.

I voted for McCain. I have more than once, though never in a primary.

Often times voting is about the lesser of two (or more) evils. That was certainly the case with McCain. Often times people promise certain things during a campaign and reneg on those promises. I will complain about those things.

[innerSpaceman]

Lemme ask you something, scaeagles ... if it really became a sort of toss-up for you whether to vote for Hillary or McCain, would the fact that Hillary's win would mean the first-ever female PotUS make any sort of difference to you?