RIP 2010 - Page 8

Strangler Lewis · 02-10-2010, 10:49 AM

I was sad when Phil Harris died.

In fact, I was sad when all the Jack Benny regulars died.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-10-2010, 10:52 AM

There's also the fact that his two sons are on the show, so viewers have not only the connection (as irrational as it might be) to him as a celebrity, but add to that a connection to his family and thus a window into that side of the grieving.

Gemini Cricket · 02-10-2010, 11:10 AM

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I must admit that sadness outpouring over Phil Harris is confusing me even more than normal. I'd say this out loud but I don't want GC to punch me in the nose.

VAM!

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ETA: I just Googled him. I only saw the show a couple of times. Maybe at GD and CP's place.

Kevy Baby · 02-10-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I must admit that sadness outpouring over Phil Harris is confusing me even more than normal. I'd say this out loud but I don't want GC to punch me in the nose.

Why would the sadness by some about his death be confusing? I understand if YOU aren't sad about it, but why would others being sad about it be an issue?

Morrigoon · 02-10-2010, 01:40 PM

Alex: Deadliest Catch does a really good job of showing their stars' personalities, so you feel like you get to know them. Plus, last season he had the blood clot hit his lungs, and the show took viewers through that with him, through the uncertainty, the diagnosis, his sons dealing with the possibility of their dad dying... so people are not just feeling bad about his death, but also the effect it's going to have had on his sons, who viewers also follow and care about. AND since this all happened during crab season, we're going to end up going through it again when the next season runs.

Alex · 02-10-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Why would the sadness by some about his death be confusing? I understand if YOU aren't sad about it, but why would others being sad about it be an issue?

It's not an issue, I am not bothered by other people being sad. I am confused by it for pretty much the reasons I gave when GC raised the issue earlier (that's what the punch in the note thing was about).

It is confusing to me because either people are labeling as "sad" something that is, to me, not actually sadness or I do not understand how they manage which deaths will be saddening without being so perpetually in grief over the millions of stranger deaths and thousands of stranger-but-I-actually-was-aware-of-them deaths that one is unable to function.

But everybody is free to feel whatever they feel. And I'm free to be confused by it.

Morrigoon · 02-10-2010, 02:59 PM

I guess ya had to be a fan of the show

Alex · 02-10-2010, 03:22 PM

You assume I'm not. While I'm hardly rabid, I have seen most of the series and am well aware of Phil Harris and his family. I'm not at all confused by finding his death noteworthy (though the more noteworthy thing is that he died in bed since his fame is based on being a show built around the fact that he was the most dangerous job in the world), just by finding it saddening. If I were saddened by his death then I would be sad all the time because people I know of are dying all the time. I would have been sad on Monday when John Murtha died. I would be sad now because Charlie Wilson (of the Tom Hanks movie fame) died today.

So again, others and I are actually having roughly the same reaction to these deaths and they label sad that which I wouldn't (in which case I am confused by our very different definitions of the word) or they actually do feel what I would call sadness but the threshold for that reaction is foreign to me, in which I am confused by how life isn't one unending string of grieving.

But mostly, the only reason I said anything initially is because I thought it was a joke that GC would be amused by.

Gemini Cricket · 02-10-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

But mostly, the only reason I said anything initially is because I thought it was a joke that GC would be amused by.

And I was.
Except, I never would punch Alex in the face because I would get my butt kicked by Lani.

Not Afraid · 02-10-2010, 10:03 PM

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Alex: Deadliest Catch does a really good job of showing their stars' personalities, so you feel like you get to know them. Plus, last season he had the blood clot hit his lungs, and the show took viewers through that with him, through the uncertainty, the diagnosis, his sons dealing with the possibility of their dad dying... so people are not just feeling bad about his death, but also the effect it's going to have had on his sons, who viewers also follow and care about. AND since this all happened during crab season, we're going to end up going through it again when the next season runs.

I'm reading this - or skimming it, really - because I don't know who this guy is or what this show is so it's all sort of blahblahblahblah to me......and then I get to this part: "AND since this all happened during crab season....." CRAB SEASON? WTF does CRAB SEASON have to do with anything?

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	You assume I'm not. While I'm hardly rabid, I have seen most of the series and am well aware of Phil Harris and his family. I'm not at all confused by finding his death noteworthy (though the more noteworthy thing is that he died in bed since his fame is based on being a show built around the fact that he was the most dangerous job in the world), just by finding it saddening. If I were saddened by his death then I would be sad all the time because people I know of are dying all the time. I would have been sad on Monday when John Murtha died. I would be sad now because Charlie Wilson (of the Tom Hanks movie fame) died today. So again, others and I are actually having roughly the same reaction to these deaths and they label sad that which I wouldn't (in which case I am confused by our very different definitions of the word) or they actually do feel what I would call sadness but the threshold for that reaction is foreign to me, in which I am confused by how life isn't one unending string of grieving. But mostly, the only reason I said anything initially is because I thought it was a joke that GC would be amused by.
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