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Has that made your life better or worse?
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Hmmm... how do I respond without kickin' your ass?
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I'm just sitting here...
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shouldn't you be working?
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ohhhh baby
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I suppose it's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma - if everyone's virtuous every one gains a bit. if no one is virtuous, everyone looses - but if there's a mix, it's at the virtuous one's expense.
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Sorry, but I can't agree with that analogy. The economy is NOT the same as a natural occurance. The economy is 100% artificial, existing entirely within our heads. It is an immensely useful and powerful artificial construct that certainly allows for vast, beautiful human interaction, but it is not a force of nature, it is purely a result of human action. Ebbs and flows are caused by humans, not some outside force of nature. We created it, we control it, we ARE it. So I do think we have a responsibility to attempt to administer to those ebbs and flows so as to minimize the negative impact to living, breathing human beings as much as possible while still retaining its usefulness as a tool for human interaction.
In my partially educated, and not very humble opinion, there are 2 major contributors to the state the economy is in. One is an unhealthy obsession with the stock market. It's to the point where the only thing that matters is for a company to increase its stock in the short term. Every decision is made to appease the short-term interests of the stock holders. Decisions that would be better for the long term health of a company are routinely passed by for fear of hurting their immediate stock price. That leads to MASSIVE volatility. The other is the impunity with which a select few people who have the most direct influence on the economy have. Heads of major investment firms, through whom the vast majority of money eventually flows, are free to gamble with that money as they please, knowing that their absolute worst case scenario is a couple weeks in the headlines and multi-million dollar retirement package. Their cavalier miscalculations, mistakes, and wild ass guesses unquestionable have the power to move markets and ruin lives, and they can do it consequence free. Until that changes, we will always be on the brink of disaster.
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Great post, GD, and I agree. Not only do I agree, but I've seen that scenario played out at a local level and it wasn't pretty. (The place where Eric used to work). It's all about greed, instant gratification for the privileged few, and damn the costs to anyone else. Economies are constantly being manipulated by special interests- look at OPEC. There is no shortage, no excuse for the marked increase in crude oil excepting profit motive. They'll do it as long as they can get away with it, and never mind that it is leading to massive food shortages and privation for many of the world's people. I'm all for getting a good return in business, but this is something different. It's a bit sinister, the timing is very suspicious, and one can't help but wonder wtf the cartel is trying to pull off. Yet Bush would have you believe that these people (excepting Venezuela) are our friends. No, they are not- they are business people manipulating the world economy into a very precarious state and I think we need to do what we can to counteract that. If we just sit back and let the fire burn, we will burn as well.
Lots of people who have been very careful with their money are in trouble now, not just the high rolling speculators. We had credit controls in place to prevent usurious and unscrupulous lending practices from occurring, but that all went to hell with this administration. Same goes for the energy deregulation- look how well that turned out. Anyone remember the savings and loan fiasco? The list goes on and on. Things that are regulated are often that way because of past abuses with catastrophic consequences- many of our banking rules stem from the Great Depression era, and with good reason. Oh, and to get back on topic.....We got our 'rebate' today. It went to bills. |
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