Ta Ta Jesse Helms - Page 8

innerSpaceman · 07-07-2008, 03:06 PM

What we were TAUGHT is acceptable in this society???

Whoa, hold on there ... because so much of what the deliciously departed spewed was, at one time, what was taught as acceptable in this society.

Furthermore, I don't feel the manners-based motto of 'Don't Speak Ill of the Dead' was ever applicable to public figures.

wendybeth · 07-07-2008, 03:58 PM

If a person chooses to live their lives in such a way- and in such a public way- then I have no problem taking issue with them after they're gone. They may be dead, but the hate and vitriol they spread is still hanging around.

Morrigoon · 07-07-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

What we were TAUGHT is acceptable in this society???

Whoa, hold on there ... because so much of what the deliciously departed spewed was, at one time, what was taught as acceptable in this society.

Furthermore, I don't feel the manners-based motto of 'Don't Speak Ill of the Dead' was ever applicable to public figures.

Why are you getting mad at me? I'm not in any way defending him or his life... just the opinions of those who are uncomfortable with the concept of grave dancing. And then in the next breath, I laid out why it may be warranted in this case. I even invoked Godwin's Law with a subtle comparison to Hitler for crying out loud!

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-07-2008, 06:36 PM

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Why are you getting mad at me?

It's what he's good at

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-07-2008, 04:26 PM

We need a poll

Chernabog · 07-07-2008, 04:43 PM

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We need a poll

Would that be a poll-dance? Har har har.

Not Afraid · 07-07-2008, 05:42 PM

I'm not ever sure I was "taught" that grave dancing is a bad thing. I DO know I was taught that gay people are sinners and black people are not to be trusted. As a result of my teachings, I have chosen to think for myself and, if I see reprehensible behavior - past of present - of a person either living or dead, I have no qualms about speaking out about it. Lest we forget.

BarTopDancer · 07-07-2008, 06:40 PM

I don't think remembering the horrible things he said, did and believed and hoping that a part of the spreading of those beliefs is the same thing as grave dancing.

The man did and said horrible things. I truly hope that a part of this country's hate machine died with him. But I am certainly not going to go "woohoo! someone died, let's party!"

I don't see bin Laden and Helms as the same. But until we catch bin Laden I can't say how I will react. I don't recall grave dancing when Saddam was executed.

innerSpaceman · 07-07-2008, 06:49 PM

Goonie, you could have read "whoa" in a Bill & Ted manner if you so chose. I'm not mad at you. Whoa is a "hold-on-there" term, just used to make my point (echoed eloquently by Not Afraid and her real-life examples) that the reasoning in your first paragraph was stuff I disagreed with. But nothing I wrote was set down in anger.

I'll tell you what I'm good at ... I'm good at being completely misunderstood.

lashbear · 07-07-2008, 08:42 PM

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I'll tell you what I'm good at ... I'm good at being completely misunderstood.

Hey buddy, what the hell's that supposed to mean ?

07-07-2008, 03:06 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	What we were TAUGHT is acceptable in this society??? Whoa, hold on there ... because so much of what the deliciously departed spewed was, at one time, what was taught as acceptable in this society. Furthermore, I don't feel the manners-based motto of 'Don't Speak Ill of the Dead' was ever applicable to public figures.
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	If a person chooses to live their lives in such a way- and in such a public way- then I have no problem taking issue with them after they're gone. They may be dead, but the hate and vitriol they spread is still hanging around. __________________
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	We need a poll __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I'm not ever sure I was "taught" that grave dancing is a bad thing. I DO know I was taught that gay people are sinners and black people are not to be trusted. As a result of my teachings, I have chosen to think for myself and, if I see reprehensible behavior - past of present - of a person either living or dead, I have no qualms about speaking out about it. Lest we forget.
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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I don't think remembering the horrible things he said, did and believed and hoping that a part of the spreading of those beliefs is the same thing as grave dancing. The man did and said horrible things. I truly hope that a part of this country's hate machine died with him. But I am certainly not going to go "woohoo! someone died, let's party!" I don't see bin Laden and Helms as the same. But until we catch bin Laden I can't say how I will react. I don't recall grave dancing when Saddam was executed. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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07-07-2008, 06:49 PM	#9
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Goonie, you could have read "whoa" in a Bill & Ted manner if you so chose. I'm not mad at you. Whoa is a "hold-on-there" term, just used to make my point (echoed eloquently by Not Afraid and her real-life examples) that the reasoning in your first paragraph was stuff I disagreed with. But nothing I wrote was set down in anger. I'll tell you what I'm good at ... I'm good at being completely misunderstood.
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