Lost!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Boom went the dynamite.

Spoiler:

You know, when they went for the reveal so early, I thought, "Okay, good, now we know THAT'S not what the island is." I thought for sure it was a red herring.

As it became clear they meant it, I was got a little worried. But they won me over with the period piece. Epic is indeed the word. And they pulled it off, I'm in. And I'm certain I've said, "If this turns out to be hell I'm going to be pissed." But they did it in the only way it works, no bones about it mythology. I love this version of the devil. It's very reminiscent of the Twilight Zone's usual take.

Oh, that was great.

And, coincidence, or Health Care Reform propaganda?

[bewitched]

AWESOME episode!

Nestor Carbonell kicked ass

[Frikitiki]

whoa schnikes!

[innerSpaceman]

Now that's what I'm talkin'.



GREAT episode!

[innerSpaceman]

I have to say, though, that I found Richard's being "doomed" to live forever to be kinda lame. Jacob couldn't give him any of the things he really desired, so Ricardo seemed to have made that one up on the spot while grasping at straws for what one wishes for when granted the proverbial 3 genii wishes.

They could have at least attempted to tie it in to the survival instinct just refreshed via his ocean water-boarding a few moments earlier. But you could see in Richard's face at that moment that he was just - ok, well, um, I guess ... um, live forever?


Still, it was my favorite episode of the season. Finally getting around to the Losties talking about their candidacies, and more of the conflict between old time Jacob and MIB - plus I've always said the off-island stuff is the best - and it doesn't get better than Period Romance Novel stuff with scruffy yummy Nestor.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

They could have at least attempted to tie it in to the survival instinct just refreshed via his ocean water-boarding a few moments earlier. But you could see in Richard's face at that moment that he was just - ok, well, um, I guess ... um, live forever?

He chose living forever because dying meant going to hell. It wasn't just, "Uuuh, I can't think of anything else", it was his only option left.

[innerSpaceman]

Sorry, where did the script say that? I must have missed it. You're welcome to your interpretation.

Mine is, of course, my own. But I based it on Nestor's performance at that moment. That's how I saw it.


Yeah, he had a fear of hell. But seeing as he seemed convinced what he thought was hell for a while really was not, I have a hard time believing fear of hell was paramount in his mind at the moment.

His first two choices were things the episode clearly established were deep desires. Live Forever never came up once before Richard asked for it kinda despondently when his real wishes were stymied.


Either way, he obviously got a bum deal. They must not have had tv or radio or books or such in 1837, because everyone knows you should never wish to live forever. Poor stupid Ricardo.



In any event, and I'll leave this to more die-hard Lost experts - but just what has Richard been doing to fulfill his job to intervene against the influence of MIB during his ensuing eternity on the Island?

[SzczerbiakManiac]

The priest in the jail told Ricardo he did not have enough time to serve penance for his crime. It seems logical/plausible to me that Ricardo would choose to live forever so he would not go to Hell and have the time to pay for his ultimate sin.

Speaking of that smokin' hot immortal, why was he called Ricardus <sp?> if his original name was Ricardo? Isn't Ricardus the Latin version of Richard? I realize he's Latino, but that's really not the same thing.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

why was he called Ricardus <sp?> if his original name was Ricardo? Isn't Ricardus the Latin version of Richard? I realize he's Latino, but that's really not the same thing.

I may have figured this out. I remember Juliet speaking Latin. She said The Others used it as a secret language or something like that. Perhaps they got to know him as "Ricardus" whilst speaking Latin and it just stuck?

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yeah, he had a fear of hell. But seeing as he seemed convinced what he thought was hell for a while really was not, I have a hard time believing fear of hell was paramount in his mind at the moment.

The three wishes were exactly in order and tied in directly with what happened earlier in the episode.

Wish 1...Wants wife back/kills for medicine.

Wish 2...Wants to avoid hell/asks priest to forgive his sins.

Wish 3...Wants to live forever/priest told him he didn't have time to make up for his sins.