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innerSpaceman · 03-24-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Speaking of that smokin' hot immortal, why was he called Ricardus <sp?> if his original name was Ricardo? Isn't Ricardus the Latin version of Richard? I realize he's Latino, but that's really not the same thing.

Fine. Now I can't stop thinking of him as Ricky Ricardus.

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

The three wishes were exactly in order and tied in directly with what happened earlier in the episode.

Wish 1...Wants wife back/kills for medicine.

Wish 2...Wants to avoid hell/asks priest to forgive his sins.

Wish 3...Wants to live forever/priest told him he didn't have time to make up for his sins.

Well, he specifically advised he didn't have time because they were hanging him in the morning. The corollary that you must live forever to have the time if a few hours is not enough does not compute and I can't accept such a leap of illogic as a motivation for Ricky Ricardus.

sleepyjeff · 03-24-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Well, he specifically advised he didn't have time because they were hanging him in the morning. The corollary that you must live forever to have the time if a few hours is not enough does not compute and I can't accept such a leap of illogic as a motivation for Ricky Ricardus.

With so many more important questions un-answered by this show I am not going to fall into wondering what Richards "real" motivation for living forever is......the answer was given last night(weak though it may have been); that question will not be re-visited so one has to either accept it(and I do) or not accept it.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-24-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Sorry, where did the script say that? I must have missed it. You're welcome to your interpretation.

From memory, so no exact quotes but the exchange was...

Ricardo: Can you bring my wife back?
Jacob: No can do.
Ricardo: Can you absolve me of my sins so I don't got to Hell?
Jacob: That's a negative
Ricardo: Then I want to live forever.

I'm 99% sure that last one IS an exact quote, the "then" being the key. He realized what dying meant - not seeing his wife, and going to hell. Without a way out of that, living forever was a better choice than death, even as he knew that living forever would be its own torture.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-24-2010, 10:59 AM

I wonder how that episode sounded to native Spanish speakers. Because I barely needed the subtitles - which means it was a whole lot of Spanish 1, because my Spanish is NOT that good anymore. The dialog must have sounded pretty cheeseball to a native speaker.

JWBear · 03-24-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I wonder how that episode sounded to native Spanish speakers. Because I barely needed the subtitles - which means it was a whole lot of Spanish 1, because my Spanish is NOT that good anymore. The dialog must have sounded pretty cheeseball to a native speaker.

Some of the native speakers on another board (*cough* televisionwithoutpity *cough*) complemented it for being easy to understand. Apparently, a lot of Spanish on TV is spoken with terrible gringo accents...

JWBear · 03-24-2010, 11:34 AM

Jacob & Esau come to mind.

innerSpaceman · 03-24-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

Jacob & Esau come to mind.

Why am I assuming the link will lead to two hot, bearded SIM men?

JWBear · 03-24-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Why am I assuming the link will lead to two hot, bearded SIM men?

LOL! No, but it does give me ideas...

BTW... I found this little tidbit interesting:

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The translation for "Jacob" in Hebrew is "he who holds by the heels". Jacob lives inside the foot of a statue.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-24-2010, 11:45 AM

Esau was a name used for MIB by a lot of people when he first appeared. And it definitely fits, what with the attempts to kill each other.

SzczerbiakManiac · 03-24-2010, 11:49 AM

Did Jacob & Esau have a crazy mother?

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