Riding crop costumes go bye bye

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I meant we shouldn't confuse a hiring situation with a casting situation. Casting almost always involves the matter of matching physical appearance to the perceived requirements of a role.

I can accept this to a point, but honestly I don't think DL really does "casting" - though they like to call it that. But then again, if they are casting, then I guess you have to question the object of the "show" - I'm not sure a scale and a size requirement have much meaning if you want to create an "authentic" feel for a particular land, in fact I think less homogenity would be a plus in the experience. (A fact I think contemporary marketing has started to clue into)

Even if you are casting for attractiveneess, I think you benefit from diversity - who wants to visit a brothel where all the girls look the same?

I do agree that a little tailoring can go a long way, why not have "costuming" do what costuming usually does in a show?

As for scranny canoe-men, how do you think those guys get those guns?

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Because we like you, silly—and don't forget it! Life and friendships aren't just about getting aroused from looking at a hottie. Believe it or not, the vacuous masses here on the LoT can see past physical appearances. And speaking as a fat, bald, and (physically) ugly person, I'm glad they do. I don't give a flying fück if someone at a Park meet is eye-candy. I care that they are fun to hang out with. You, my dear, fit the bill quite nicely.

[hugs]

I agree, but I also don't think you are unattractive in any way. I've only seen your avatar, but you have a great smile, fun hair, and a great sense of humor. I can't see the picture very closely, but you look pretty to me. I don't think people are saying, "You're ugly, but we like you anyways." I think it's more like, "We don't care one way or the other. We like you."

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

I can accept this to a point, but honestly I don't think DL really does "casting" - though they like to call it that. But then again, if they are casting, then I guess you have to question the object of the "show" - I'm not sure a scale and a size requirement have much meaning if you want to create an "authentic" feel for a particular land, in fact I think less homogenity would be a plus in the experience. (A fact I think contemporary marketing has started to clue into)

That's true. If you are going to "cast" Main Street USA for authenticity then you should probably cast middle aged men as most of the shop keepers, young men for the lower paid rolls (ice cream scoopers, etc.) and so on. Very few women worked in small town USA. The only "role" I would see attractiveness and authenticity joining would be the saloon girls.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by tracilicious

I agree, but I also don't think you are unattractive in any way. I've only seen your avatar, but you have a great smile ...

Nice ball, Mr. Maniac.

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Nice ball, Mr. Maniac.

Uh...I probably should have clarified this, but my comment was directed at Prudence and her avi. I've never actually seen Sczerbiwhatever, but I'm sure he's lovely as well.

[Not Afraid]

WOW! I go out to lunch and shopping with my 3rd husband and come home to one entire page of new posts here. COOL!

I'm sort of snickering to myself here because, I've met most of you at one time or another and, while I think we are a great and fun lot of people that I adore, Johnny Depp or Natalie Portman does NOT live here. Nor do their look a-likes. So, say what you will about fat people working at Disneyland and then go look in a mirror and wonder what "Magical Makeovers" would do for you. Everyone could use some help in the physical department IMHO.

My point is, it's not very important if you're fat or skinny, short or tall. What matters is how much of your backside you tend to show off to others. Most people don't like a lot of asshole in their face.

[Capt Jack]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

My point is, it's not very important if you're fat or skinny, short or tall. What matters is how much of your backside you tend to show off to others. Most people don't like a lot of asshole in their face.

that was damn profound.

*runs off in search of a longer shirt to cover his backside*

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Everyone could use some help in the physical department IMHO.

And this is what costume and fashion are all about. We all have features we'd like to draw attention to, and those we'd like to hide - clothing is one of the most basic means of doing that. A well tailored outfit can make us all look better. I'd like to think this is a consideration among the costume redesigns, but again I'll reserve judgement till I see what comes off the cat walk.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Prudence

When I was young and pretty and repeatedly turned down for jobs because I looked too cute to be competent, I swore that I would never make the same type of judgement about other people, regardless of the circumstances. Unfortunately, far too many people in this world are happy to continue such practices, defending themselves with the justification that it's just society's way.

People seem to think that from what I've said that I have never been judged by anyone for my appearance. I may have been skinny my entire life, but that doesn't mean I wasn't shoved against lockers or had my hair pulled by judgemental bastards who wanted someone to pick on for my appearance. I've had acne problems since I was 11 years old. For all of my childhood I was called names for being skinny, and as soon as we hit 6th grade, teasing shifted to being flat-chested. I matured later than everyone else and even then I still got sht for not fitting into society's standard mold. Only in my 20s have I become comfortable with my outward appearance, and felt any real confidence about it.

I've also always had friends of every shape, size, color, and description throughout my life.

And if it really is society's way, if that's just the way society is and it's never going to change, then odds are you, CP, and most everyone else here really does think fat = ugly. If it's so much of a given that whole industries can be forgiven for never hiring over a size 6, then why all the "but *I* would never think that way!" protest? If majority rules, and if the majority is as vast as has been implied (har har), then why not be forthright? Why not just say (and this is directed at no one in particular) that electronic conversations are all well and groovy, but damn, if you have to look at baggy knees below shorts one more time you're going to puke?

Because it's simply not true. I've always had friends of every shape, size, color, and description throughout my life. I know plenty of people that look nothing like my personal "type" but that I know to be truly attractive people.

The thing is that everyone can't be attracted to everyone. Can anyone honestly claim that they find EVERYONE attractive, because they're just THAT open minded? When you're drooling over a hottie in a movie, or a guy that you bumped into at the supermarket, you are judging someone due to their appearance. Good or bad, it's still a judgement, and that's still a part of the human experience.

While I can find real attractiveness in nearly everyone I meet (and I mean that, that is not PC bullsht) it doesn't mean that I think they're truly hot. "Hot" in my totally subjective, "I am hot for them" way. Am I supposed to want to sleep with everyone?

Of course my type isn't going to be your type. Among my many tastes is that I really dislike muscled men without chest hair. But in the end, there's an average that can be measured in our society. The odds may be that I agree with a lot of what is "standard", but the odds are equally good that there are going to be aspects of the standard that I don't agree with. Same goes for everybody.

More later...

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

And this is what costume and fashion are all about. We all have features we'd like to draw attention to, and those we'd like to hide - clothing is one of the most basic means of doing that. A well tailored outfit can make us all look better. I'd like to think this is a consideration among the costume redesigns, but again I'll reserve judgement till I see what comes off the cat walk.

Which was partially my point earlier.

Of course, it's not even just about size, cut and fit of clothing. It's pattern and color. Back when they did have strict appearance guidelines for their casting, it made sense to have everyone in a certain role wearing the same costume. Now that they are more inclusive with who they hire, no matter how hard they try, a single costume design is at BEST going to be "not unflattering", I fear. Not just because of the shape, but because stripes don't look right on some people, blue doesn't look right on others. Especially with a costume like the tour guides'. It's one thing if it's a pirate costume, or other such highly themed item. In those cases, the theming overshadows the personal fashion asthetics. These costumes are just clothes (ornate clothes, but clothes).

So ideally, there'd be a range of complementary costumes, custom tailored to each CM to best suit the individual. But it's unlikely with the amount of turnover they see, that they'll invest in that kind of variety.