You Haven't Seen WHAT?! - Page 9

Alex · 07-20-2006, 09:04 PM

If you only go out of your way for one of those it should be On the Waterfront. Most of those others are great movies (I wouldn't really put Birth of a Nation, Close Encounters, or The Jazz Singer on the list, they are more valuable as oddities advancing cinema than as films themselves). But On the Waterfront is truly a great one.

innerSpaceman · 07-20-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Close Encounters ... more valuable as oddities advancing cinema than as films themselves.

WTF

Alex · 07-20-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

WTF

Just to be clear, I like Close Encounters a lot! I just don't think it really goes on the list of the 100 greatest films of all time.

Motorboat Cruiser · 07-20-2006, 10:00 PM

"Unforgiven" is a pretty wonderful film as well, IMHO.

DreadPirateRoberts · 07-20-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

"Unforgiven" is a pretty wonderful film as well, IMHO.

Great movie.

"Hell of a thing killing a man... you take away all he has and all he's gonna have."

Mousey Girl · 07-20-2006, 10:21 PM

Since I can't remember what movies I haven't seen, I am going to copy the idea of others:

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)

2. CASABLANCA (1942)

3. THE GODFATHER (1972)

4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)

5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)

7. THE GRADUATE (1967)

8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)

9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)

11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)

12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)

15. STAR WARS (1977)

17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)

18. PSYCHO (1960)

22. 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968)

23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)

24. RAGING BULL (1980)

27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)

28. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979)

29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)

30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)

31. ANNIE HALL (1977)

32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)

33. HIGH NOON (1952)

34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)

35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)

36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)

37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)

38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)

39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)

40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)

41. WEST SIDE STORY (1961)

43. KING KONG (1933)

45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)

47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)

50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)

51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)

52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)

54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)

57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)

59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)

63. STAGECOACH (1939)

64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)

67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)

69. SHANE (1953)

70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)

72. BEN-HUR (1959)

73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)

74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)

76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)

78. ROCKY (1976)

79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)

80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)

81. MODERN TIMES (1936)

82. GIANT (1956)

84. FARGO (1996)

85. DUCK SOUP (1933)

86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)

90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)

91. MY FAIR LADY (1964)

92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)

93. THE APARTMENT (1960)

94. PULP FICTION (1994)

96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)

97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938)

99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)

100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

Some of the above I have seen parts of, but never the full movie. Other recent movies I have not seen are Titanic, Brokeback Mountain and the majority of Oscar nominated films.

If I know ahead of time that a movie will make me cry I will not watch it. If just the tv commercials make me cry, and they aren't even the full trailer, I will not watch. The new Sept 11th movie is one I will be avoiding at all costs.

tracilicious · 07-20-2006, 10:30 PM

I've just had the brilliant idea to add a separate netflix queue with the top 100 and get one disk out of three every time. I wonder how long it will take to see everything?

mousepod · 07-21-2006, 07:25 AM

I saw CE3K the first week it was released -- I even have the program. Even though I was 10 (going on 11) when it was released, I have a strong memory of most of the scenes that iSm describes. Whether the memory is real or imagined due to the power of suggestion is another thing. Is it possible that any of the missing footage showed up in any of the TV airings? I remember that the first time is was on network TV, it was spread over two nights...
... the hunt is on!

Ghoulish Delight · 07-21-2006, 08:11 AM

Watched Citizen Kane last night. It's entirely impossible to form an opinion on it. Having seen large chunks of it in passing, and, of course, it being so talked about and so esteemed. Not to say I didn't like it, I did. But as for its status as the best movie ever, I know I'm simply not qualified to even begin to analyze that. Too far removed from the time it was made, and too overloaded with baggage about it.

Gemini Cricket · 07-21-2006, 08:20 AM

If I remember correctly (film school was a long time ago) here are some reasons why CK is a primo film:

- creative chiaroscuro lighting and lots of shadows...
- dissolves and wipes used in a film
- low angles that showed the ceilings of sets (not very common back then, often sets had no ceilings at all)
- non-linear storyline
- overlapping dialogue
- deep focus shots
- characters aging in a film with the use of make-up
- long takes that lingered without cuts
- special effect shots (ie the camera going through the club sign)

These are some I remember. These techniques were not commonly used back then and rarely used together in the same film.

07-20-2006, 09:04 PM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	If you only go out of your way for one of those it should be On the Waterfront. Most of those others are great movies (I wouldn't really put Birth of a Nation, Close Encounters, or The Jazz Singer on the list, they are more valuable as oddities advancing cinema than as films themselves). But On the Waterfront is truly a great one.
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Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	"Unforgiven" is a pretty wonderful film as well, IMHO.
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Mousey Girl Just Me Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In The Flagon With The Dragon Posts: 2,437	Since I can't remember what movies I haven't seen, I am going to copy the idea of others: 1. CITIZEN KANE (1941) 2. CASABLANCA (1942) 3. THE GODFATHER (1972) 4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939) 5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962) 7. THE GRADUATE (1967) 8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954) 9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993) 11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946) 12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950) 15. STAR WARS (1977) 17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951) 18. PSYCHO (1960) 22. 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968) 23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941) 24. RAGING BULL (1980) 27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967) 28. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979) 29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939) 30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948) 31. ANNIE HALL (1977) 32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974) 33. HIGH NOON (1952) 34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962) 35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934) 36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969) 37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946) 38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944) 39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965) 40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959) 41. WEST SIDE STORY (1961) 43. KING KONG (1933) 45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951) 47. TAXI DRIVER (1976) 50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969) 51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940) 52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953) 54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930) 57. THE THIRD MAN (1949) 59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955) 63. STAGECOACH (1939) 64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977) 67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962) 69. SHANE (1953) 70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971) 72. BEN-HUR (1959) 73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939) 74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925) 76. CITY LIGHTS (1931) 78. ROCKY (1976) 79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978) 80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969) 81. MODERN TIMES (1936) 82. GIANT (1956) 84. FARGO (1996) 85. DUCK SOUP (1933) 86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935) 90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927) 91. MY FAIR LADY (1964) 92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951) 93. THE APARTMENT (1960) 94. PULP FICTION (1994) 96. THE SEARCHERS (1956) 97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938) 99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967) 100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942) Some of the above I have seen parts of, but never the full movie. Other recent movies I have not seen are Titanic, Brokeback Mountain and the majority of Oscar nominated films. If I know ahead of time that a movie will make me cry I will not watch it. If just the tv commercials make me cry, and they aren't even the full trailer, I will not watch. The new Sept 11th movie is one I will be avoiding at all costs.
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07-21-2006, 07:25 AM	#8
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I saw CE3K the first week it was released -- I even have the program. Even though I was 10 (going on 11) when it was released, I have a strong memory of most of the scenes that iSm describes. Whether the memory is real or imagined due to the power of suggestion is another thing. Is it possible that any of the missing footage showed up in any of the TV airings? I remember that the first time is was on network TV, it was spread over two nights... ... the hunt is on! __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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07-21-2006, 08:11 AM	#9
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Watched Citizen Kane last night. It's entirely impossible to form an opinion on it. Having seen large chunks of it in passing, and, of course, it being so talked about and so esteemed. Not to say I didn't like it, I did. But as for its status as the best movie ever, I know I'm simply not qualified to even begin to analyze that. Too far removed from the time it was made, and too overloaded with baggage about it. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-21-2006, 08:20 AM	#10
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	If I remember correctly (film school was a long time ago) here are some reasons why CK is a primo film: - creative chiaroscuro lighting and lots of shadows... - dissolves and wipes used in a film - low angles that showed the ceilings of sets (not very common back then, often sets had no ceilings at all) - non-linear storyline - overlapping dialogue - deep focus shots - characters aging in a film with the use of make-up - long takes that lingered without cuts - special effect shots (ie the camera going through the club sign) These are some I remember. These techniques were not commonly used back then and rarely used together in the same film.
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