All About McCain

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I may just not have read it, but has anyone even expressed concern or given a comment to you Obama is just as in the back pockets of the banks as anyone else treatise?

Actually that's not true. I'm an ardent Obama supporter but I do NOT support all of his stances on issues. I was rather aghast that he voted *for* FISA, for one. I'm grudgingly accepting a lot of his issues. I've traditionally been a single-issue voter (illegal immigration--a very typical conservative view and one that pits me completely in polar opposites with my otherwise libertarian conservative views--because as a legal immigrant I find line-cutters to be despicable and a personal affront to me). I not only voted for Bush in 2000, I voted for Tom Tancredo for 2004 (there you have it, I never said this publically before)--yeah he was not on the ballot. I was so pissed I wrote his name in.

So as you can imagine, I'm not particularly keen on Obama's views on immigration. Well, I'm not humongously supportive of McCain's, either.

Here's the thing. The reason I'm a supporter of Obama is because he is the right man for the right time. The depth and breadth of how much the Bush administration has ruined things in our country is almost unfathomable.

You know when I voted for Bush in 2000, it was because I didn't want to vote for Gore because to me Gore was Clinton 2.0 and I hated that Clinton didn't respect the office enough to keep his pants zipped there. And my thinking was, "Well, we need a change. How much harm can one person do?" Boy was I wrong.

I don't want a card-carrying AARP/qualify for Social Security/frail from torturous injuries senior citizen in the White House, with a barracuda teeth-bearing "young Earth man-walked-with-the-dinosaurs" Christianist fundie rubbing her hands in anticipation on the side. What a joke.

How in the WORLD can such an administration try to right the keel on our broken ship? Do people even KNOW how ridiculed we are around the world? This blind nationalism is KILLING US.

[Betty]

So - now there's no debate Friday night? WT-fizzety-fizz-uck?!!! grumble. McCain is a pussy.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Betty

So - now there's no debate Friday night? WT-fizzety-fizz-uck?!!! grumble. McCain is a pussy.

Obama is showing up, McCain is a question mark last I read.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Betty

So - now there's no debate Friday night? WT-fizzety-fizz-uck?!!! grumble. McCain is a pussy.

Huh? IS it postponed? I haven't seen anything that says it has been. As a matter of fact, the debate committee has specifically said they're moving forward with it despite McCain's gambit.

[Tom]

McCain has said that he won't show to the debate tomorrow unless there is an agreement in place on the bailout, but now it's looking like there's a good chance that there will be an agreement by then.

[Betty]

I thought I'd read that the debate was off - that both candidate would be meeting with the prez? Hmmm.

The website for the debate location says it's still on.

I wanted to write my rep in congress about the bailout plan. What do you suppose it means when the page won't load? Perhaps I'm not the only one.

https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml

[scaeagles]

Oh....the Keating Five is only one of my big issues with McCain.

I wasn't very clear....in some thread or another ISM went on about Obama, touching on points of his involvement with the banking industry and other things, can't remember all exactly, maybe including his advisors and campaign contributions, etc. That's what I was referring to in terms of if anyone has responded.

And make no mistake. I know it's a ploy on behalf of McCain. I don't think McCain is fearful at all, though.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And make no mistake. I know it's a ploy on behalf of McCain. I don't think McCain is fearful at all, though.

It may have been a "foreign policy" debate but there is no way they were getting out of there without the economy being brought up. And the perception among the viewing audience is that McCain is stumbling on handling the crisis. He was most certainly fearful. Fearful of the reality that 99% of the time, debates don't change anyone's mind they just reinforce whatever opinion trends are happening. An on air confrontation about the financial crisis would not have gone in McCain's favor. So he tried the nuclear option, bail out and make it look like he's pulled himself together and is all over this financial thing. It's not a surprising move, it's even an understandable move, but it was not a move done with particular cleverness or subtlety. Pretty much everyone has seen right through it for what it is, a last ditch attempt to fix his image on the economy and, if he was lucky, dodge being put on the spot at the debate.

But it's going to backfire. Where before he could easily have taken control of the debate by keeping it on the official topic of foreign policy, where he for no good reason maintains his advantage of perception the same way Obama maintains his advantage on economic issues. But now that he'll likely put his tail between his legs and show up for the debate having declared from the hilltops that the crisis is the most important issue since 9-1-1 Emergency Number Day, he won't be able to dodge it.

[Gemini Cricket]

Whether or not McCain is being fearful, only McCain can answer that. But this situation is playing out like something is not right in the McCain camp. Word from CNN is that the McCain camp is now going to see if the VP debates can be delayed as well. I find that odd.

ETA: Meaning that the McCain/Obama debate should be placed in the VP debate slot. And the VP debate to be held at another time. All this is based on whether or not an agreement can be reached...

[Ghoulish Delight]

Maybe he's just coming to terms with the fact that come November he's going to be returning to his job in the Senate full time and wants to start remembering people's names again.