Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 92

Ghoulish Delight · 08-17-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mousepod

I refer you to a 1977 interview with McGoohan where he talks about the show, the ending, and even the motivation for the Western episode.

From the interview:

"But I thought I wasn't going to pander to a mentality so low that it couldn't perceive what I was trying to say..."

But that's exactly what he DID do. I mean, he talks about the point of the series being about the Village trying to break down the individual. And I GOT that from the 14 "normal" episodes. And I got it without the blatant, "Hey look, we're breaking down the individual" contrivances of the last handful of episodes. My English teacher in Jr. High used to call it "Show; Don't Tell". The show was artfully and masterfully able to convey that message of No. 6 fighting for his individuality without being literal about it. In the end, it just became too literal.

As for it being better having been viewed in 1967, might I remind you that there were protests and letter writing campaigns. And I don't think it's just because people "didn't get it", as McGoohan claims. I think people saw exactly what I saw.

mousepod · 08-17-2006, 08:26 AM

Perhaps, GD. I guess this is just one where we'll have to agree to disagree. Having seen the entire series several times since my first exposure to it in high school, I can't imagine it ending any other way. I enjoy the absurdity of the finale, the same way I enjoy the ending of The Magic Christian. I hope that you and CP will be able to revisit the other 14 episodes at some point in the future and enjoy the show without the taint the finale puts on it for you.

Not Afraid · 08-17-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mousepod

Perhaps, GD. I guess this is just one where we'll have to agree to disagree. Having seen the entire series several times since my first exposure to it in high school, I can't imagine it ending any other way. I enjoy the absurdity of the finale.....

I'm with you there. While I don't love the western episode, I DO love the final episode and I wouldn't ever want to change it.

Freaky Tiki · 08-17-2006, 09:41 AM

I have tickets to the midnight showing of Snakes on Plane tonight...Boo Ya!

Matterhorn Fan · 08-17-2006, 09:44 AM

Snakes on a Plane gets midnight showings?! Wow, it's right up there with Star Wars and Harry Potter and Pirates--whatever that means.

Alex · 08-17-2006, 09:48 AM

Presales of Snakes on a Plane tickets have apparently been slow. Unfortunately I think the hype around this movie peaked about four months ago.

Of course, I've never had any interest in actually seeing the movie just amusement that it was so honestly made and marketed.

DreadPirateRoberts · 08-17-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Presales of Snakes on a Plane tickets have apparently been slow. Unfortunately I think the hype around this movie peaked about four months ago.

Of course, I've never had any interest in actually seeing the movie just amusement that it was so honestly made and marketed.

Alex, Do you think they didn't screen the movie because it would get unfavorable reviews?

Alex · 08-17-2006, 09:59 AM

Probably.

It is a marketing effort built entirely on hype. Reviews can't help and could only hurt. But it has also become increasingly common over the last year for the studios to not screen films of a less intellectual nature, even if it turns out that they aren't that bad. I think so far this year there have been something like 10 or 12 studio releases that weren't screened, more than all of last year.

Matterhorn Fan · 08-17-2006, 09:54 AM

Didn't Samuel L. Jackson call you this week, Alex?

I think it'll have a decent (not great) opening weekend, then die quickly. I suspect most people will wait for it on DVD.

Not Afraid · 08-17-2006, 01:35 PM

If I haven't made it to see the latest Woody Allen film, I'm certainly not going to chuck $20 out the window for this film.

08-17-2006, 08:26 AM	#2
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08-17-2006, 09:41 AM	#4
Freaky Tiki Super Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 176	I have tickets to the midnight showing of Snakes on Plane tonight...Boo Ya! __________________ This is nothing.
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Matterhorn Fan Double Agent Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Back East Posts: 2,071	Snakes on a Plane gets midnight showings?! Wow, it's right up there with Star Wars and Harry Potter and Pirates--whatever that means.
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08-17-2006, 09:48 AM	#6
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Presales of Snakes on a Plane tickets have apparently been slow. Unfortunately I think the hype around this movie peaked about four months ago. Of course, I've never had any interest in actually seeing the movie just amusement that it was so honestly made and marketed.
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08-17-2006, 09:59 AM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Probably. It is a marketing effort built entirely on hype. Reviews can't help and could only hurt. But it has also become increasingly common over the last year for the studios to not screen films of a less intellectual nature, even if it turns out that they aren't that bad. I think so far this year there have been something like 10 or 12 studio releases that weren't screened, more than all of last year.
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08-17-2006, 09:54 AM	#9
Matterhorn Fan Double Agent Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Back East Posts: 2,071	Didn't Samuel L. Jackson call you this week, Alex? I think it'll have a decent (not great) opening weekend, then die quickly. I suspect most people will wait for it on DVD.
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08-17-2006, 01:35 PM	#10
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	If I haven't made it to see the latest Woody Allen film, I'm certainly not going to chuck $20 out the window for this film.
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