The Gay Thread - Page 97

JWBear · 02-03-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Actually, queer is quickly picking up steam amongst not-strictly-straight youngsters of all genders and persuasions. I like it.

Not more than Gay. I really like Gay. Absolutely, wiki is right - it's mostly referring to men. But it technically applies to anyone who is homosexual. Too bad I never hear gay girls refer to themselves that way.

And, ycch, Lesbian. What an ugly word.
(Quoting from something, but I forget what.)

All the lesbians I know call themselves gay.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-03-2011, 09:53 PM

I think it's really just the fact that no one was really paying much mind to female homosexuality. While the idea of same sex female marriage and relationships shares similar status as between males, it's well established that same sex female sexual encounters do not share the same stigma (and are supported by the same bible that fuels the stigma against same sex male relations). So for most of the history of the words, "gay" and "homosexual" referred to male homosexuality by default, with a cursory nod towards, "Oh, well, yeah, there can be female homos too I guess". "Lesbians" arose because there was a need to specifically distinguish that you weren't JUST talking about males.

innerSpaceman · 02-03-2011, 10:15 PM

Do you suppose girl on girl was nearly universally hot, even in antiquity?

Ghoulish Delight · 02-03-2011, 10:22 PM

Read the bible. Girl on girl in harems was de rigueur.

alphabassettgrrl · 02-03-2011, 10:59 PM

I've used "queer" to describe myself. It's nice in that it has fewer connotations than some other terms.

lashbear · 02-04-2011, 12:08 AM

The Sydney Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, Seeking & Othered Mardi Gras started it's life simply as: The Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras. I've been in it several times, but I've never been to Lesbos. (yet)

I wonder if Lesbos has an award for "Lesbian Of The Year" ?

Oh, and a lot of queer folk here now refer to themselves as "Queer" as an inclusive term rather than GLBT. I like it because it strips the power of it being a derogatory slur.

Kevy Baby · 02-04-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lashbear

Oh, and a lot of queer folk here now refer to themselves as "Queer" as an inclusive term rather than GLBT. I like it because it strips the power of it being a derogatory slur.

See, I like that approach.

innerSpaceman · 02-04-2011, 10:29 AM

When I was a kid, queer was a derogatory insult on the same par as faggot. I think it's cool that kids today are adopting it at a quick pace - - but then again, I'm a guy who thinks we should use "fag" as an affectionate term, to disarm it in the same way blacks have done with (note that as a white guy I must still refer to it as) the "N"WORD.

JW - Long Beach Lesbians are a breed apart. Of course they call themselves Gay.

JWBear · 02-04-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

When I was a kid, queer was a derogatory insult on the same par as faggot. I think it's cool that kids today are adopting it at a quick pace - - but then again, I'm a guy who thinks we should use "fag" as an affectionate term, to disarm it in the same way blacks have done with (note that as a white guy I must still refer to it as) the "N"WORD.

JW - Long Beach Lesbians are a breed apart. Of course they call themselves Gay.

They're not all from Long Beach. Orange County has lesbians too.

Moonliner · 02-04-2011, 01:08 PM

Ha ha NOM. You got served.

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When cartoonist Zach Weiner discovered that NOM (an anti-gay marriage lobbying group) had appropriated one of his comics as a hotlink on its website, he fired back in the simplest, cleverest way he could. He changed the image

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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I think it's really just the fact that no one was really paying much mind to female homosexuality. While the idea of same sex female marriage and relationships shares similar status as between males, it's well established that same sex female sexual encounters do not share the same stigma (and are supported by the same bible that fuels the stigma against same sex male relations). So for most of the history of the words, "gay" and "homosexual" referred to male homosexuality by default, with a cursory nod towards, "Oh, well, yeah, there can be female homos too I guess". "Lesbians" arose because there was a need to specifically distinguish that you weren't JUST talking about males. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Read the bible. Girl on girl in harems was de rigueur. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	I've used "queer" to describe myself. It's nice in that it has fewer connotations than some other terms. __________________ Why cycling? Anything [sport] that had to do with a ball, I wasn't very good at. -Lance Armstrong
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lashbear SwishBuckling Bear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In Isolation :) Posts: 6,597	The Sydney Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, Seeking & Othered Mardi Gras started it's life simply as: The Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras. I've been in it several times, but I've never been to Lesbos. (yet) I wonder if Lesbos has an award for "Lesbian Of The Year" ? Oh, and a lot of queer folk here now refer to themselves as "Queer" as an inclusive term rather than GLBT. I like it because it strips the power of it being a derogatory slur. __________________ *I Heart* my Husband - I can't think of anyone I'd rather be in isolation with.**
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	When I was a kid, queer was a derogatory insult on the same par as faggot. I think it's cool that kids today are adopting it at a quick pace - - but then again, I'm a guy who thinks we should use "fag" as an affectionate term, to disarm it in the same way blacks have done with (note that as a white guy I must still refer to it as) the "N"WORD. JW - Long Beach Lesbians are a breed apart. Of course they call themselves Gay.
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