JuKoon [must be] soon!

[BarTopDancer]

The holidays that inspired JooKoon are soon upon us. That means JooKoon is soon!

However one of the founders is not going to be back in CA until October.

So, we must 1) decide if we are going to celebrate JooKoon and 2) when it will be celebrated.

I'll kindly request not the first weekend in Oct since I'll be out of town (and not seeing K in Vegas). I know there is an annual event the 2nd weekend in Oct. That leaves 2 weekends then Halloween. Or we can turn Labor Day into miniJooKoon.

Or we have to get K out here before Oct.

[Kevy Baby]

I believe the more common spelling (at least according to the searching I just did) is Ju Koon (or JuKoon, though the version with a space is more common).

For others who don't remember (or don't know) what Ju Koon is, I think the first post in this thread (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=9892) covers it fairly well.

[Not Afraid]

I'll get the Volvo cleaned up and ready to go.

[innerSpaceman]

It's coming up sooner than you think. Friday night, September 17. Sorry, but um, there's no "changing" it or having it on a date convenient, any more than you can change Christmas. It's really early this year - - but at least it's on a Friday ... technically Friday sunset to Saturday sunset - so we could celebrate Saturday, if that's more convenient.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

Omar is coming to Vegas that weekend so we can belatedly celebrate our anniversary. I don't want to miss JuKoon :\

[keith - SuPeR K!]

It's coming up sooner than you think. Friday night, September 17.

I wish I knew that sooner...

[innerSpaceman]

Me, too. I didn't know till this thread was posted ... and frankly, I would likely have missed it entirely. It's almost always in October.


You could always celebrate Ju Koon in Las Vegas. Throw some bread into the lake at the Bellagio!

[Kevy Baby]

It's coming up sooner than you think. Friday night, September 17. Sorry, but um, there's no "changing" it or having it on a date convenient, any more than you can change Christmas.What makes it this date?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Jews.

[innerSpaceman]

I hate Jewish holidays, or rather the timing of them. They never got the memo about standardized dates - or rather, I suppose they thought the memo was part of a Roman plot to wipe them off the face of the earth, and thus rejected it.

So, while pleasantly tribal, Jewish holidays are still worked off the phases and timing of the moon and, for all I know, sticks cast among the reeds. So they're never on the same date each year, and generally "float" among a time period of roughly a month in either direction.

This year, Ju-Koon is really early. The good news is, it's on a Saturday. The bad news is, I don't get a day off work that way. :(

[mousepod]

Not that I've done JuKoon... but I guess technically it can be any time from September 9 to September 29 this year... (if you're going in line with the Jewish ritual stuff).

[innerSpaceman]

Huh?

[BarTopDancer]

Considering Ju-Koon is a made up holiday involving traditions from the High Holidays I don't see why the event has to be on a specific date.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I hate Jewish holidays, or rather the timing of them. They never got the memo about standardized dates - or rather, I suppose they thought the memo was part of a Roman plot to wipe them off the face of the earth, and thus rejected it.

So, while pleasantly tribal, Jewish holidays are still worked off the phases and timing of the moon and, for all I know, sticks cast among the reeds. So they're never on the same date each year, and generally "float" among a time period of roughly a month in either direction.
Pssh, you're a fan of this mess we call a calendar? Thirty days hath September, April June and November, all the rest have 31, except yadda yadda made up stuff...at least the moon is a real thing to measure by. Also, Jewish calendar is older. DIBS on marking time!

(Though I guess if you go Jewish calendar you have to count the Omer....no parties for 40 days suuuuux, especially if your birthday tends to fall in the middle of it.)

:p

[innerSpaceman]

BTD: Ju Koon is NOT a made-up holiday. It's thousands of years old and is the most sacred day to a religious faith that makes Christianity look like a pimply teenager. We call it Ju-Koon for fun's sake, and have developed some fun new traditions - while holding fast to the old one that, I'm told really belongs to Rosh Hashana, which we have no funny name for (ok, the real name is funny enough).

So, no, we cannot simply "pick" a date for Ju Koon.

[€uroMeinke]

However, I think we can pick a date for Vaginismus

[mousepod]

Huh?

Since the casting of stuff into water is pretty much Tashlich...

On the first day of Rosh Hashanah (September 9) after the afternoon prayer, we go to a lake, river or sea (preferably a body of water that has fish), and recite the Tashlich prayers, wherein we symbolically cast our sins into the water and leave our old shortcomings behind us, thus starting the new year with a clean slate.
If the first day of Rosh Hashanah falls on Shabbat, Tashlich is done on the second day of Rosh Hashanah. If one is unable to perform this ceremony on Rosh Hashanah, one may do so until the last day of Sukkot (this year, September 29, 2010).

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, but see, we're not celebrating Rosh Hashanah; we're celebrating Yom Kippur aka Ju Koon. With incorporated traditions from Rosh Hashanah and, well, Ju Koon.

I suppose you're right in that the central tradition is not anchored to Rosh Hashanah, and certainly not to Yom Kippur. And I suppose since Ju Koon is only anchored to Yom Kippur by virtue of the tradition belonging to a different holiday altogether, we could conceivably make up the date for Ju Koon. Heck, it could be in April.

But making up the date, imo, demeans the fact of it being a holiday. The beauty (and sometimes inconvenience) of a holiday is that it is when it is, not when it works out for you and assorted other people you want to make plans with. That's called a swanking. We haven't had one of those in a while either, btw.

Anyway, you have to be up for Christmas on December 25th, for Independence Day on July 4th. Ju Koon falls on a Friday night and Saturday this year, which is a big bonus for getting together. But that's when it is - and Ju Koon is trademarked, so don't even think of calling some other day "Ju Koon." The Ju's will sue.

[flippyshark]

I hope I won't be thumped too hard, but can I ask how the name Ju Koon is derived, and how this LoT tradition (about which I know nothing) got started? Alas, I can't join y'all for it in any case, but having just done a Google search on the term, and come up empty-handed, I gather this requires enlightenment from founders.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Just a reminder, Easter is lunar based (first Sunday after the first full moon in Spring), so Christianity is not off the hook for this roaming holiday thing.

[Kevy Baby]

I hope I won't be thumped too hard, but can I ask how the name Ju Koon is derived, and how this LoT tradition (about which I know nothing) got started? Alas, I can't join y'all for it in any case, but having just done a Google search on the term, and come up empty-handed, I gather this requires enlightenment from founders.I'm right there with you. I didn't think we were honoring a subway station in Singapore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joo_Koon_MRT_Station)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Just a reminder, Easter is lunar based (first Sunday after the first full moon in Spring), so Christianity is not off the hook for this roaming holiday thing.
Only because they were trying to recruit Norse pagans.

[Morrigoon]

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That... my friends... was a swanking.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Dude, take a chill pill. I'm sure the High Holy Day of "Jew Raccoon" can be moved without too much fuss...unless you want to make some.

Ju Koon is NOT a made-up holiday. It's thousands of years old and is the most sacred day to a religious faith that makes Christianity look like a pimply teenager. I dig that you have been celebrating your version of Yom Kippur for many years. But to claim that this is the holy day that's thousands of years old is pretty hilarious, considering what Yom Kippur is really about. I'd like to see a swanking involving fasting and spending a 10 hour day in synagogue, begging God for forgiveness for our hedon gathering sins. I don't know if you have ever done it, but I have, and it's no picnic...nor is it a super-fun bonfire and run-in with wild animals. Ju Koon is it's own awesome tradition - and that's a GOOD thing.

Of course, being that my husband and I have never attended this most serious of official holidays, perhaps I'm not able to speak on the issue.

[innerSpaceman]

I was not saying that our version of Ju Koon or my version of Yom Kippur was the SAME as Yom Kippur has been celebrated for thousands of years. On that score, I'm sure we haven't had any ritual animal sacrifice in quite some time.

But yeah, I spent too much of my childhood fasting for 12 hours and spending the whole damn day in synagogue. It was boring and horrible (though we kids made the best of it). As it turns out, discovered decades later, fasting every once in a while is really good for you .... but being told God commanded me to or gave fig about whether I did or not is just hogwash that I washed my hands of long ago.


I retained what I liked from the holiday (or lets just say, from the Jewish Holiday Season) and I'm glad some friends have added a bit to that. But that's NOT to say it happens whenever we please, and it's also not to insist we can't celebrate it when convenient (in the same way Halloween parties are often not on Halloween).

In this case, however, Ju Koon falls on a Friday night and Saturday. I don't know what could possibly be more convenient for a celebration among friends. What would be the point in picking some completely other weekend that's not Ju Koon weekend?

[innerSpaceman]

In any event ,for flippy and whomever else might be interested:


A Brief History of Ju Koon

The first Ju Koon was four years ago, not even known as Ju Koon. It was Yom Kippur as a beach party, so we could be near the shore to partake in the ritual I mistakenly purloined from the Jewish New Year, typically celebrated about a week earlier.

You take bits of bread products (or, in some enterprising cases, voodoo dolls make of bread) and cast them into the ocean, symbolically casting away anything from your life that you don't want in your life anymore. Some people do that from the safety of shore. In this instance, most of us wandered into the ocean (see photos above).


In this case ... it worked. As soon as we set foot in the placcid sea, the waves rose up in roaring torrent and crashed down upon us, ravenously swallowing our symbolic offerings. It was absolutely Biblical.


Much drinking, de-pantsing, and other (unfortunately) memorable shenanigans followed.


The next year, Ju Koon was christened as such. It was a weeknight, with a much smaller entourage. It also involved going down to the ocean (in this case, a small bay at the bottom of the Portugese Bend cliffs) and throwing bread and/or underwear into the sea.

It also involved a madcap road tour of Palos Verdes (North, East, South and elusively West), a night cap of vodka and deserts at Hof's Hut, and most importantly - a visit to Point Fermin Lighthouse Park where we were stalked and hunted by roving bands of wild raccoons.


The following year - last year - saw a return to Point Fermin Park where we took the shortcut of throwing bread into the sea from there. I'm not sure the Gods smiled on our laziness - - no bands of raccoons were spotted .... BUT, from that night on, raccoons have haunted and sometimes occupied the Long Beach abode of Not Afraid and €uro Meinke.


I don't recall the exact etymology of the new name for our ten-thousand-year-old holiday - but obviously it was a cross between Jewish and Raccoon, spelled to humorously riff on (and perhaps offend) Koreans and pronounced to riff on and more likely offend Hebes and Coons.




So ... anyone want to play Ju Koon this year? Friday night or Saturday? I've recently discovered a fantastic spot down the cliffside of Portugese Bend - which would require some decent and ascent ... but which would be convenient to the de riguer Point Fermin Pilgrimage afterwards.

[BarTopDancer]

The date you have your heart set on is in 2 weeks. One of the founders won't be able to make it. If you're so set on this date then plan something.

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I think I realized why the date never seems to work for GD and CP. They are, as far as I know, practicing jews (which means either going to synagogue or having to spend the day with family).

Since they are, I daresay, the LoT's most famous jews, I think a change away from Yom Kippur might be in order if they would attend Ju Koon.

Otherwise, BTD, could you be less vague about "one of its founders?" I know Keith can't make it - but in truth, he's trying to avoid trips to L.A. in general in order to save money for his move to Cali. So it's not simply a matter of picking a different weekend. Is that who you were referring to?


And I have taken a step toward planning something: I'm asking if anyone might be interested in doing something either Friday the 16th or Saturday the 17th. BUT, now that I've become aware that Ju Koon practically EXCLUDES Cadaverous Pallor and Ghoulish Delight, I feel we might seriously want to treat it like a Halloween party that doesn't happen to be on Halloween if it would mean they would be able to participate in this burgeoning LoT holiday extraordinaire.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

JuKoon is an ever-evolving holiday and as so I see no issue with making some new modifications... Wasn't that the fun of it in the first place? Do some rad traditional stuff, then add something new!

iSm is correct in stating that I have been avoiding planning any trip to SoCal as I ramp up for the big move which will hopefully work out to be in October. Sadly, that likely means I will miss my favorite holiday (which seems to be happening really effing early this year)...

Anyone have ideas for some kind of new date scheme?

[Alex]

Just a reminder, Easter is lunar based (first Sunday after the first full moon in Spring), so Christianity is not off the hook for this roaming holiday thing.

If only Jesus hadn't been killed so close to Passover Easter could just have been a random date selection like Christmas was.

[Ghoulish Delight]

We, as a matter of fact, are very far from practicing Jews at this point in life, but yes it is a time of year that is usually centered around family get togethers none the less. We've missed past years likely because of that, or being on a weeknight, or who knows what else.

The tradition belongs to those who instigated it, don't go altering on our account. Nevermind that with Disquieting Metomorphosis to consider, planning around us would be restrictive. Among other things, we'll have just returned from our first stint away from him. We're going to a wedding in Boston next weekend, leaving him with grandparents for a couple days. The planning-ahead centers of our brains are currently at full capacity with the NASA-level logistics that requires.

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, but even if we start to veer away now - it might encourage your participation in future years when, by then, Ju Koon might be in late November. ;)

Sorry if I seemed so strident. It's just that I'm a big fan of things happening when they happen, and human compliance with that as encouragement to get up and go. But compromise is good. Fifty Five Fifty is good example. I could not conceive of celebrating Disneyland Birthday some other date, but it was ok to celebrate my birthday concurrently, which meant 2 weeks after the fact.

Unfortunately, one downer factor of changing the date is that it adds another painful level of logistical hassle in first arriving at a mutually convenient date. It's why dates-certain work best for group things. But maybe we'd like the comfort of having Ju Koon, unlike Yom Kippur, be on a predictable date - say, maybe the second Saturday in October ... ya know, always.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

But maybe we'd like the comfort of having Ju Koon, unlike Yom Kippur, be on a predictable date - say, maybe the second Saturday in October ... ya know, always.

I agree that something like this would be a good compromise.

[€uroMeinke]

that might conflict with Columbus Day - another important Date for some of us ;)

[Kevy Baby]

I vote for the fifth Saturday in February

[flippyshark]

Sounds like fun - and thanks iSm for the elucidation.

[BarTopDancer]

Since K was going to be back just a few weeks later (hopefully for good) I saw no harm in waiting for him.

I now see the error of my ways. It happens this way because it's always happened this way. And by always I mean the past 3-4 years. And once a faux holiday created for fun happened that way it must always.

[innerSpaceman]

I'm happy to turn it into a faux holiday, but please understand it has not been a faux holiday at all. It has been a ten-thousand-year-old, very sacred and meaningful holiday that we gave another name to. Like calling Christmas "Yuleday."

And the only guaranteed part of Ju Koon is the Ju part (because we do it ourselves), while the Koon part is absolutely hit and miss.


So please don't get me re-started again on why the history of the world didn't start 4 years ago when the people of the LoT joined in on this. I've been celebrating this holiday my entire life and, pardon me, but I brought it to the LoT to share.

I'm reluctant to make Ju Koon a separate holiday. Am I to throw bread into the ocean twice in Autumn now? It would seem silly and one of those rituals will seem superfluous. But if it means more people can join in, and look forward to a date certain every year - fine. Pick a date.

[Kevy Baby]

Now, all of a sudden, I am not so keen on participating.

[Not Afraid]

I find it wonderful that D Googled JuKoon and disappointing that he didn't find anything.

The name derived from a completely sober and right minded conversation (if you can be sober and right minded while being kidnapped in a volvo with me driving). After the driving adventure, the stop at the sea, the ritual throwing of underwear into the water and the creepy Pt. Fermin soiree which was quite a bit like "The Birds" only with raccoons. (We went to Pt. Fermin to see the sunken city and the feral cats...."Look Keith, it's a cat? That's not a cat, Lisa".) When we were driving back to LB to get some sustenance. It was suggested by one (of the 5 in the car) that the name should be changed to Jew Coon to aptly reflect the actual events that occurred. It was then suggested that we spell it slightly differently - Ju Koon. Why the Korean spelling, I don't know. Maybe it was a sign of the addition of Kimchi into our lives.

To top off the evening, after a nosh we returned to our house and saw an animal on the neighbor's lawn. "Look, it's a raccoon!" "That's not a raccoon, Keith, that's a cat" "No, Lisa, that's a raccoon". That cemented the new name of the holiday and, little did we know, gave a peek under the tent of raccoon adventures to come.

Oh, and Ju Koon must be celebrated on or very near the actual date but the celebration must be somewhat spontaneous. We can't let the raccoons know we're coming.

[€uroMeinke]

I believe the Korean spelling was an homage to the Korean Bell that rests above point Vermin. I can't remember if we stopped there or just did a drive by.

[Prudence]

If this ends up happening, tell me when and where. (And hopefully tell me elsewhere, as I don't seem to end up here much anymore. )

[innerSpaceman]

Here's where and when:

Ju Koon will be ON Ju Koon. Saturday, September 18th.

Ritual casting off of unwanted life things via bread totem - the Tide Pools at Oceana.

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Basically, it's south on Via Vicente to the Ocean, which is the street across Palos Verdes Drive South from Hawthorne Blvd. (as if you were continuing across PV South on Hawthorne). There's plentiful free parking at a clifftop lot on Calle Entradero.

I was just shown this area a few weeks ago, and it's stunningly gorgeous. There's also the possibility we might opt instead for the tide pools at White Point, near Abalone Cove park, a mile or so southward along the rugged shoreline (but I think the parking is more iffy there).

Low tide is at 1:20 p.m., and high tide returns at 7:30. So preliminary plans are for tide pools in the early afternoon, followed by various potential area excursions (the Cabrillo Marine Museum and a beautiful hike at the stunning Trump Golf Course) - and then, after dark, the traditional Koon hunt at Point Fermin Park (where WE are the hunted).

More details to follow. Suggestions are welcome. Except the suggestion to move Ju Koon to another date. Ju Koon will be on Ju Koon. Don't argue with the Hebrew God. He's a vengeful and omnipotent deity. And that's to say nothing of the Korean gods and the Raccoon spirits. :tiki:

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

As usual I work - this sucks....

[Prudence]

How bad is the hike down? And back up? I sometimes get all vertigo-ish. But, I've been wanting to see the tidepools.

[Not Afraid]

I will need to know how many people are going to be there as I have swag.

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I've never hiked down ... which is partly why I'm so keen to do it. People and dogs at the bottom seemed like they were having the MOST FUN, but we didn't have time to check it out.

I must say, it looked to be moderately steep descent and climb down a hillside (not a cliff). Not beyond anyone's capabilities, I'd say - but not a casual stroll.

[JWBear]

I'd like to participate; but how do I explain this to Bill so he doesn't think we're all insane?

[BarTopDancer]

I'd like to participate; but how do I explain this to Bill so he doesn't think we're all insane?

I think it's too late for that....


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And I have a friend visiting from out of town and we have tentative plans. So it depends what is finalized.

[Prudence]

Don't explain! Tell him it's a "normal" outing and let it be a surprise.

Rat and I will try to be there. Might take me forever to get down and back up, but i'll give it a go.

[Disneyphile]

Well, we'll be somewhat nearby (San Pedro) shooting a wedding and reception that day. Toss some bread for us! ;)

[Kevy Baby]

...shooting a wedding and reception that day.Don't miss! Is your aim good?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I'd like to participate; but how do I explain this to Bill so he doesn't think we're all insane?Just tell him you're going for the bonfire (I assume there are fire pits?), no need to worry about the rest of it.

We will be most relieved to be home with our precious baby, whom we are deserting this weekend....*sniff*...so it may be hard to tear ourselves away from housebound family bliss. I'm sure we'll consider it though.

If we do come we'd be able to stay until 6pm or so.

[Gn2Dlnd]

I hope there's cell phone service down amongst those tide-pools. I'll have to participate via remote breadcast from the shores of the World Showcase Lagoon. Perhaps a baguette from the France pavilion, no? Is it high tide, low tide, or sunset? I don't recall.

[innerSpaceman]

There may be cell service, but there's no fire pits. It's not a beach. Even it it were, there are no fire pits at beaches in L.A., except for Dockweiler under the flight path at LAX.

Tide pools. Rocky. Potentially Wet. Bring appropriate footwear, if you can.

[Not Afraid]

PV cell coverage can be sketchy at best.

And, yeah about the shoes. Bring 2 pair - one a water or tennis shoe with traction.

[Kevy Baby]

And, yeah about the shoes. Bring 2 pair - one a water or tennis shoe with traction.What should the other pair be? I suggest CFMPs for the wenches :evil:

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I'd love to come to this—I had a blast at the last one—but I have a show that night so I won't be able to fully participate in the festivities. So count me in as a partial.

[Kevy Baby]

Which part? Torso? limbs?

[SzczerbiakManiac]

viscera and fingernails

[katiesue]

I thought I'd make it this year but Maddie just got a national anthem gig for Saturday. Hopefully next year.

[Kevy Baby]

C'mon. That damn song takes all of 45 seconds...

[innerSpaceman]

So, how's 1:30 pm for people who want to hit the Tide Pools? That's the low-tide point ... plus I understand several people can only do daytime, so I think it's best to start that early.

:cheers: Who's in?





Oh, did I mention you can rid yourself of anything unwanted in your life, and IT WORKS? :snap:

[innerSpaceman]

Hey everybody, JU KOON IS SOON!!! This Coming Saturday, September 18!

We haven't had a Swanking for awhile, so howzabout making this one of those? It's gonna be fun.

Here's some memories from the first Ju-Koon, way back in 2007 ...


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Once again, we will be casting our unwanted life problems, situations, drama and garbage into the sea - to expunge them from our better lives.

This time, we won't be at the beach though - - -

we'll be here:

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Please join us for any or all of the festivities and activities at one of Southern California's most glorious places - Portugese Bend on the rugged Palos Verdes Coast.


:cheers: 1:30 p.m. - a visit to tantalizing tide pools below the cliffs of Oceana. Sealife, Ocean Gloriousness, and the Jew part of the festivities (casting bread into the waves).

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:birdy:Um, later (4ish? or whenever the incoming tide prompts us to move on) - a beautiful nature walk along the cliff-tops high above the roaring sea at the Trump Golf Course.

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:tiki: Late Afternoon - a visit to the ginormous Korean Friendship Bell - to commemorate the Koreanization of Jew Coon into the somewhat less offensive and more fun to spell "Ju Koon."

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;) And at sunset or shortly after - Point Fermin Park, for the traditional raccoon hunt - yes, the Coon part of the festivities.

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:snap: It's going to be a day of beautiful nature, wonderful friendships, and fun festivities. Everyone's invited! Come and Play!! :iSm:

[Ghoulish Delight]

Alas, a good friend of mine from high school is following a job opportunity out of state, and Saturday will be our last chance to see him and his son before they disappear. So we once again will not be able to join.

[Not Afraid]

Remember, I will have a limited edition piece of swag for participants.

[innerSpaceman]

At this rate, who knows if there will be any. I read on Facebook that Pru's flying to Texas today.

Um, I'm rethinking making JuKoon the second Saturday in October - in perpetuity - starting this year. :)

Thoughts?

[BarTopDancer]

At this rate, who knows if there will be any. I read on Facebook that Pru's flying to Texas today.

Um, I'm rethinking making JuKoon the second Saturday in October - in perpetuity - starting this year. :)

Thoughts?

:rolleyes:

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I requested someone to suggest a date a few pages or so back. I figured the suggestion should come from one of the people who can't make it on the 18th. Since that now turns out to be, well, almost everyone ... let's revisit the idea of making Ju Koon a more reliable holiday. Of course, not like most holidays - I guess only like Thanksgiving. ;)

It would be the second Saturday in October. Forever. If we start this year, that would make it October 9.

[katiesue]

that's Columbus Day Weekend.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I hope you get a good turnout.

[BarTopDancer]

deja vu anyone?

[innerSpaceman]

oh no, not Columbus Day weekend!?! What a conflict that would be for everyone in California!! :rolleyes: :p

[innerSpaceman]

I hope you get a good turnout.

Seriously, except for me and Lisa (and maybe Chris), absolutely no one can make it this weekend. That's puhthetic.

I invited mousepod to come as a member of the honored tribe, but he has tickets to a show that night, taking along with him a friend of his whom I've recently become enamored of. I invited her separately and she expressed interest in fitting in both things, but now I haven't heard anything from her either.


I'm on the verge of calling this off. :confused:

[alphabassettgrrl]

I'm sorry. This is a surprisingly busy time of year, I guess.

[innerSpaceman]

No worries. It doesn't HAVE to be tied to Yom Kippur. It makes Ju Koon very unpredictable, but of course, gives much more meaning to the holiday chant, "Ju Koon Soon?" - because we never really know. :D

We'd no longer have to ask ... but it's worth that loss if others can join in.

[Kevy Baby]

Seriously, except for me and Lisa (and maybe Chris), absolutely no one can make it this weekend. That's puhthetic.If it is still a go, Susan and I will be there this Saturday

It would be the second Saturday in October. Forever. If we start this year, that would make it October 9.that's Columbus Day Weekend.And many Swankers will be out of town.

deja vu anyone?All over again

[Prudence]

I'll be back late Friday evening, so we're still a go if it's this Saturday. We're not a go if it's the 9th, since we'll be doing Mouse Adventure in Orlando then. I'd really like to cast my current job and resulting ennui to the waves.

[Morrigoon]

I can do this Saturday, but not the 9th. FWIW

[innerSpaceman]

Well, that's more like it. :)

[Not Afraid]

We are going to PV on Saturday since I already forfeited a job for it and hired someone to come in for the pets. If you are there I'll see you. If it's the 9th, I won't.

[Prudence]

The caveat for us is that we can only attend the bread tossing part, as I have to leave midday Sunday for San Diego for the week, and I have a metric crap ton of things to do before then. I really needed to spend my friday off at home! Alas...

[innerSpaceman]

oh absolutely - as long as some people could make it, I'm all in. I didn't exactly scour the thread, but Pru, you were the only one (besides Chris and Lisa, who I talked to off the board) whom I recall said you were planning on attending - but then I read on facebook yesterday that you were leaving for Texas!

Ok, so now we have me, Lisa, Chris, Pru, the Rat, Goonie, Kevy and Susan - total rockin' fun. And yeah, I completely understand some people can only come for this part or that. Works.

[innerSpaceman]

Since some people can only make it to the tide pools, and since that will be our only stop actually at the water's edge - that's where the ritual bread and crap-of-life toss will take place. Let's meet up at the parking lot at 1:30 - low tide tomorrow. X marks the spot:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3964/jukoon2010.jpg


Directions:

The Scenic Drive:

Take the 110 Freeway south - way, way south. When you hit the land of ocean ports, look for the Anaheim Blvd. exit (it's the exit after Pacific Coast Highway).

Turn left at the bottom of the ramp, and then right onto Anaheim Blvd. After passing a zone with oil refineries, you'll come to the 3-way intersection of Anaheim, Gaffey St., and Palos Verdes Drive North - which is the street you want.

Turn left onto Palos Verdes Drive North, which is the uphill left (not the almost-u-turn downhill left onto Gaffey St.) Stay on PV North a ways, past Western Ave, and you'll see a sign for the left-hand turn-off onto Palos Verdes Drive East. Turn left on PV East - which is a windy mountain road up and over the crest. On the downhill side, especially if it's a nice day, things will start to get damn scenic damn quick.

The road dead-ends at your 3rd Palos Verdes Drive, PV Drive South! Turn right. You'll be driving along some gorgeous coastline, including the wild land-shifting zone known as Portugese Bend (don't worry, it won't be shifting as you drive).

When you come to the major intersection of PV South and Hawthorne Blvd., turn left. I think there's some kind of mini-mall and a gas station at this intersection. The left turn will take you into a residential area with the gay name "Oceana" (insert roll eyes here ... oh, wait ... :rolleyes: ).

There'll be an Oceana sign, and the street is actually called Calle Vincente even though it's basically a continuation of Hawthorne Blvd. *

Just drive as far as you can on this, all the way to the ocean, and the street will veer right and enter a nice parking area. The end.


The Somewhat Less Scenic Drive:

* the less complicated and less scenic way is indeed to just take Hawthorne Blvd. Use the Hawthorne Blvd. exit off the 405 Fwy, and travel south on Hawthorne till you reach the ocean. Easier. More traffic, less pretty.

[innerSpaceman]

What to Bring

If you have some type of water shoes, bring 'em. Tide pool areas are rocky and wet.

If you're staying for more than the tide pools (Trump Nature Hike, Korean Friendship Bell and Point Fermin Raccoon Park are next), you might want to bring a snack to munch on somewhere along the way.

Also, bring your sense of fun and adventure. Have some life-crap in mind that you'd like to be rid of.


http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9361/sinners.jpg




http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5732/sinnerspunished.jpg



Fun for the Whole Family! :cheers:

[Kevy Baby]

For peoples who want to use their GPS, plug in "50 Calle Entradero, Rancho Palos Verdes, CA" - it will get you pretty close.

Also, Google link (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=50+calle+entradero,+Rancho+Palos+Verdes,+CA&sll=33.753126,-118.412255&sspn=0.01438,0.022037&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Calle+Entradero,+Rancho+Palos+Verdes,+Los+An geles,+California+90275&t=h&z=16) for those who want it

[Morrigoon]

Do we need to bring bread, or is someone already bringing it?

[Gn2Dlnd]

Do we need to bring bread, or is someone already bringing it?
Do you want to throw away your own life crap, or somebody else's?

I'd like to participate via remote breadcast. What time should I be shooting for in Florida? I don't have to synchronize with you guys, just need to know if I'm shooting for sundown, low tide, or something o'clock. What time should I cast my baguettes upon the water?

[innerSpaceman]

I'm bringing a loaf of bread. Life-crap is transferred to the bread on-the-spot, so you needn't have your own personal supply.;)

I can't say exactly what time the ritual will take place this year. It looks like sunset is out because (a) most people can't stay anywhere near that long, and (b) if we stay at the water's edge that late, we'll be underwater.

So it looks like late afternoon - between 3 and 4 pm local Pacific Daylight Time is my best guesstimate at this non-crystal ball part of the morning, if that helps you out in Florida.

(Will you be going to the Ocean? Bay Lake? World Showcase Lagoon?)

[Snowflake]

Toss a slice in for me iSm!

[Gn2Dlnd]

So it looks like late afternoon - between 3 and 4 pm local Pacific Daylight Time is my best guesstimate at this non-crystal ball part of the morning, if that helps you out in Florida.

(Will you be going to the Ocean? Bay Lake? World Showcase Lagoon?)

World Showcase Lagoon, bread will either be from Chefs de France (lunch), or Le Cellier (dinner). As I said somewhere else, so much for ketosis!

Au revoir, merde de la vie! :cool:

and merci, babelfish!

[Kevy Baby]

If we do bring our own Bread, is there a preferred format? CD, LP, cassette, 8-track?

[Gn2Dlnd]

Dateline, Florida-

This year, in Orlando, JuKoon was observed with the traditional casting of the bread upon the waters at approximately 6:40 pm local time. From the Western facing, white sandy beaches of Crescent Lake regrets were banished, faults were acknowledged, and resolutions were resolved. Residents of the Yacht Club Resort were heard to say, "Hey, why's that guy throwin' bread all over our beach?" To which the raccoons replied, "Nom nom nom." This year, in a surprise casting change, the raccoons were played by familiar local faces, the Really Aggressive Ducks. When asked if JuKoon has become too commercial in recent years, one local participant said, "No, the baguette was free." Thanks France! One more step towards the normalization of Franco-American relations.

That's all from Florida's JuKoon celebration, let's see how things are proceeding in California...

Wait! I believe our Nevada team is about to check in...

[Not Afraid]

JuKoon California.

Eight Lotters risked their life today in the name of JuKoon. The perilous trip down the steep hill (and I DO mean trip) was rewarded with pristine (except for the homeless campsite and various pieces of trash) beaches and tide pools. Bread was cast, the sea gods angered, waves retaliated and our past regrets were washed away. When no one would touch the sea penis, we made the long, dusty and exhausting treck up the steep hill.

We lost 3 people to exhaustion or social obligations (The Rat, Pru and Savanah) but gained Morrigoon. After a stop for coffee (and a search for dry shoes) we all piled in Kevy's car - it was time for the traditional adventure portion of JuKoon - the Koon part of the celebration.

I took over the driving (much to Kevy's distress - but it is TRADITION) and off we went. Our destination was the Korean Bell. We never made it.

What we did discover was a lovely beach with the remains of an old 1920's resort whose history is both fascinating and sad. At the end of the parking lot sat an ice cream truck - nirvana on wheels - and we all imbibed in the food the JuKoon God had provided for us. We hiked up the beach until the discovery of "Perky Breast Point" where we stopped to contemplate the sunset.

It was getting dark and only one raccoon had been spotted - and he was road kill. Back in the car we drove to the other end of the rocky beach. Then we saw them.........not raccoons but CATS. TONS of them living in the rock by the sea.

I suppose that cats - not raccoons is the totem for this coming year.

FRIGHTENING THOUGHT!!!!

After the first named JuKoon we had all of the trouble at our house with raccoons. Our house is already filled with cats. What DOES the future hold??? Only time will tell.

Some of my photos from the day are here. (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#%21/album.php?aid=2092896&id=1246598123)

[€uroMeinke]

In the above "steep hill" = "Cliff face."

[Morrigoon]

Yeah, it looked like a cliff face from the top. Getting lost for an hour and not making the tidepool suddenly seemed like a fortuitous event ;)

[BarTopDancer]

A few miles up the road I had a solitary celebration (my friends, despite being LoTters didn't quite get JuKoon) by tossing a roll that a nice waitress at Beachfront 131 gave me into the water.

The sea gods always know. Actually it was a trip to watch the sea come back with rage when something heavy was cast away and the same type of wave come ashore as a mere pitter when something minor was cast away.

[€uroMeinke]

My pix (http://www.facebook.com/editalbum.php?id=593354555&aid=234843&add=1&created=1#!/album.php?aid=234843&id=593354555)are up - now I need to go to bed

[innerSpaceman]

Yay, Ju Koon celebrated at two oceans and in three states! Tomorrow, the World!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Friendly reminder guys - set your FB albums to be seen by people without FB accts.

Love the photos, looks like fun!

[Morrigoon]

Damn, it's going to merit its own wikipedia entry ere long...

[innerSpaceman]

Ju Koon recommendation: - a bus with Lisa at the Wheel, preferably let loose in Palos Verdes. :D

This year's random adventure: The White Point Hot Springs Hotel Ruins. Good find. Fascinating and sad story (http://www.insidesocal.com/history/2010/06/white-point-hot-spring-hotel.html).

[BarTopDancer]

Friendly reminder guys - set your FB albums to be seen by people without FB accts.

Love the photos, looks like fun!

There's also a link at the bottom of each album to share with those who don't have FB while keeping your privacy settings intact.

[Not Afraid]

Do I need to do something?

[innerSpaceman]

You're gonna need a bigger bus.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Do I need to do something?If you haven't already, do the following.

There's also a link at the bottom of each album to share with those who don't have FB while keeping your privacy settings intact.

Not for my sake, but for the few that FB has not assimilated yet *cough*kevy*cough*

[Not Afraid]

I think Kevy just needs to join FB and be done with it.

This is the way we post photos now. Get with the program.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

Dateline, Florida-

This year, in Orlando, JuKoon was observed with the traditional casting of the bread upon the waters at approximately 6:40 pm local time. From the Western facing, white sandy beaches of Crescent Lake regrets were banished, faults were acknowledged, and resolutions were resolved. Residents of the Yacht Club Resort were heard to say, "Hey, why's that guy throwin' bread all over our beach?" To which the raccoons replied, "Nom nom nom." This year, in a surprise casting change, the raccoons were played by familiar local faces, the Really Aggressive Ducks. When asked if JuKoon has become too commercial in recent years, one local participant said, "No, the baguette was free." Thanks France! One more step towards the normalization of Franco-American relations.

That's all from Florida's JuKoon celebration, let's see how things are proceeding in California...

Wait! I believe our Nevada team is about to check in...

Thanks Gn2, great to hear JuKoon is alive an well on the East Coast! Here in the Nevada desert, a small (2 person) contingent of LoT-ers congregated at sunset on the bridge overpassing beautiful man-made Lake Jacqueline in the Desert Shores community to toss their cares away and realign their lives for the coming year. The beautiful ceremony, complete with Gay Club Remix finale, lasted well into the darkness of night and, much like in Florida, featured a small cast of ducks masquerading as the holiday's namesake raccoons! Participants were excited to be able to bring the celebration to Nevada for the first time in this awesome holiday's history.

Back to you, California.

[innerSpaceman]

Back in California, we seriously need to take up a collection to rent a short bus for Not Afraid to careen around Palos Verdes in ... at least by the next Ju Koon that falls on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. That's nearly half the week right there ... but when you consider that we can either choose the starting night or the ending afternoon, our chances of a weekend Ju Koon are doubled!

And feral cats vied with aggressive seagulls to be this year's California mascot. Perhaps we'll get a different featured animal totem each year ...

[BarTopDancer]

Not for my sake, but for the few that FB has not assimilated yet *cough*kevy*cough*

I know. I was offering an alternate method of sharing for those (like me) who prefer to keep their FB private but still want to share photos with those (like Kevy) who refuse to cooperate.

And feral cats vied with aggressive seagulls to be this year's California mascot. Perhaps we'll get a different featured animal totem each year ...

We saw Ducks. Of course we took that to be a really good omen for the upcoming year.

[Not Afraid]

I think JuKoon must be akin to the Chinese New Year where a new animal is featured each year.

[Ghoulish Delight]

And feral cats ...
Are you sure that wasn't just the pack that orbits NA at all times?

[keith - SuPeR K!]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/491594655_4a679b27b4.jpg

Here is a picture of the bridge we cast our bread from :)

[innerSpaceman]

Btw, as a photo tangent, facebook is nice for looking at photos, but sux for sharing them.


Oh, and I snapped a total of two photographs - once i realized so many other people were taking pictures. Thanks so many other people.


Now, is there any place to download decent-sized copies of your photos? (sign, I wish previous Ju Koons were visually documented.)

[Gn2Dlnd]

By the time I was breadcasting in WDW, all my batteries had died. No pix of the actual event. Although I don't know how I would have broken up the baguette into tossable bits, and taken pictures of myself while tossing said bits. I will go back and take a picture of the lovely beach, maybe the Really Aggressive Ducks will have moved on.

There are others of us who are not on FB and have very good reasons for not doing so.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

Laurie has some nice shots... I'll have to get them from her!

[alphabassettgrrl]

This year's random adventure: The White Point Hot Springs Hotel Ruins.

Pretty little beach there. Anybody get in the water and find the still-existing hot springs?

[Not Afraid]

Pretty little beach there. Anybody get in the water and find the still-existing hot springs?

No, it was cold by the time we got there.

The hot springs were cut off as a result of the LB earthquake. Did they get re-routed into the ocean?

Such and interesting area. Between the lore and the subsidence, I'm always fascinated.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I thought there were natural little ones in the shallow parts of the ocean. I might be remembering it wrong. They're kind of random, but little upwellings of warm water. Probably not the same ones that were harnessed by the resort, but related.

[Kevy Baby]

This year's random adventure: The White Point Hot Springs Hotel Ruins. Good find. Fascinating and sad story (http://www.insidesocal.com/history/2010/06/white-point-hot-spring-hotel.html).Just to make sure no one misses it, there is a whole collection of photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pvlocalhistory/sets/72157622140682988/) of the place when it was standing

[€uroMeinke]

There are others of us who are not on FB and have very good reasons for not doing so.

Perhaps, but your's isn't one of them :p

[innerSpaceman]

The hot springs were cut off as a result of the LB earthquake.

Yeah ... in 1932.



...or was it '33?




Such and interesting area. Between the lore and the subsidence, I'm always fascinated.

I could say the same of the entire Palos Verdes Peninsula. Driving stop'n'go through there on Ju Koon was like a greatest hits parade of my entire life in California, combined with something I discovered a mere month ago (the cliff climb) and a wonderful something discovered that very day (White Point Hotel Ruins) - after a good 30 years of fascination with the area.

And to think, as a group of Ju Kooners, we've never even experienced (and likely never will) the Sunken City off Point Fermin - which was my prime Palos Verdes tripster destination (in fact, my prime Southern California tripster destination) for a decade and a half.


The peninsula is a treasure trove of weird history, natural splendor, psychic phenomena, and adventure galore. I want to spend at least part of every Ju Koon carousing around P.V. :snap:

[Not Afraid]

My earliest memories of PV were from the 60's both of the wonderful cottages my Dad always drooled over, driving through the subsidence area and of Marineland (now the site of the new Terrenea Resort).

A little more research, looking at and comparing maps and photographs, has both Chris and I grounded on what was placed where in the area.

The fountain that is now at the entrance drive (on top of the cliff where we first drive in) is the same fountain shown in the pictures of the Resort. The actual resort was located at the base of the road.

The colonnade of palms that we walked down after getting ice cream was the Royal Palms Recreation Center developed by Roman Sepulveda in 1908. Those fireplaces and dance floor were a part of the Rec Center.

MacArthur Park has some other fascinating things to explore. There's nothing like old gun battlements to bring WWII back to life.

[€uroMeinke]

I just had a memory trigger of visiting one of the LA Nike Missile sites (http://ed-thelen.org/loc-c.html#LA-29) as a cub scout - odd to think of such things scattered among the suburban neighborhoods

[DreadPirateRoberts]

I just had a memory trigger of visiting one of the LA Nike Missile sites (http://ed-thelen.org/loc-c.html#LA-29) as a cub scout - odd to think of such things scattered among the suburban neighborhoods

Thanks for the link. I love history like that.

[Cynthia]

I have not been there since 'diving' at Marineland, I think Brendan and I must come and see the area soon!

[innerSpaceman]

:cheers: Hey everyone, Ju Koon is Real Soon.

(Heheh, this is just the most recent Ju Koon thread I could find, but there were separate ones for past Ju Koons. This was about last year's; should we start a 2011 version?)


As you may have heard, Ju Koon has been moved - permanently I think - to the Saturday falling between Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur (the Juish high holy days) each year ... this year falling on Saturday, September 30, 2011.


Time to make plans for the set-up (though, of course, part of the fun is that we really don't know what will happen or where we'll end up).

Calling Not Afraid, calling Not Afraid! Time to spill at least the initial beans for your Ju Koon Twenty Eleven concept!

[Alex]

I thought NA was off party planning this year?

[Cynthia]

Can't wait to hear in what form the animal visitation will take this year. It is a lovely spot, take lots of photos!

[Not Afraid]

Time to make plans for the set-up (though, of course, part of the fun is that we really don't know what will happen or where we'll end up).

Calling Not Afraid, calling Not Afraid! Time to spill at least the initial beans for your Ju Koon Twenty Eleven concept!

It will be on the FB page real soon. Promise.

(And, Alex, I can't help myself.)

[BarTopDancer]

I thought NA was off party planning this year?

She's off party planning every year until she's not. Actually, I think the only party she hasn't planned as her quiet steak dinner.

Here she is trying to figure out how we planned that right in front of her.

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[innerSpaceman]

Bad News, Ju Kooners. Saturday, October 1 conflicts with Gay Day. Haven't been to that in ages, but I'm going this year.

Howzabout moving it back to the original planned Friday, September 30?

[Not Afraid]

Nope.

Please refer to FB thread.

[JWBear]

We're not doing Gay Day. I no longer have an AP and I refuse to pay $175 just to get the two of us into DL for one day.

[Kevy Baby]

Bad News, Ju Kooners. Saturday, October 1 conflicts with Gay Day. Haven't been to that in ages, but I'm going this year.Its all part of the master plan to snub you.

Mwu ha ha ha

[innerSpaceman]

So, NA - I seem to remember you writing something on the FB Jukoon page that you had something in mind for this year's Ju Koon, or at least the water ceremony or a starting point. Is that the case?

If so, can you please let us in on where and when, at least the start? Perhaps it would be possible to have cake and eat it, too.





Edited to add: Ah, I see - general location and precise time posted in JK @ FB, specific locale to be announced there on Fri, 9/30. Works.

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, someone might want to try this (http://kottke.org/11/11/how-to-make-your-own-feral-raccoon-suit) for next year's JuKoon!

[Snowflake]

Hmmm, someone might want to try this (http://kottke.org/11/11/how-to-make-your-own-feral-raccoon-suit) for next year's JuKoon!

I'll settle for tossing bread effigies into the Pacific.

[Betty]

Hmmm, someone might want to try this (http://kottke.org/11/11/how-to-make-your-own-feral-raccoon-suit) for next year's JuKoon!

Maybe with some tinsel mixed in?

[Strangler Lewis]

So, how was this year's JuKoon?

And what was this year's JuKoon?

[€uroMeinke]

Hmmm this offers a different strategy the next time raccoons lodge in our attic...

Also make one hell of an initiation rite for JuKoon virgins

[Gn2Dlnd]

Not seeing a 2012 Ju Koon thread, what's the haps? I'm trying to plan a birthday party here!

[Strangler Lewis]

I still have no idea what this is. I'm guessing it's not what it sounds like--a KKK hunting party--so please advise.

[innerSpaceman]

There were tentative plans for a Catalina Excursion, but that seems to have petered out. I could be wrong.

I'm out in any event. I have something else the day of the 22nd. No more Ju Koons for me.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Let's do this thang. But let's not do it that weekend. WAAAY too much stuff going on. (I have a 40th birthday, a 50th birthday, a pair of houseguests and a sing-along competing. Not to mention a writing deadline.)

[lashbear]

Strangler Lewis: It means they're going to travel to Singapore;

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[innerSpaceman]

Let's do this thang. But let's not do it that weekend. WAAAY too much stuff going on. (I have a 40th birthday, a 50th birthday, a pair of houseguests and a sing-along competing. Not to mention a writing deadline.)

I have a radical suggestion: Yom Kippur (this year falling on Wed, Sept. 26).

[BarTopDancer]

I have a radical suggestion: Yom Kippur (this year falling on Wed, Sept. 26).

Have we decided that Yom Kippur is the actual, correct Jewish Holiday JuKoon is based off of? That is the holiday we throw bread in the water, after fasting all day and sitting in Temple all day, right?

[€uroMeinke]

I'll be in Chicago on the 26th

[Morrigoon]

Jim: I'd say, plan a bday. Shenanigans will probably ensue :)

[Kevy Baby]

Have we decided that Yom Kippur is the actual, correct Jewish Holiday JuKoon is based off of? That is the holiday we throw bread in the water, after fasting all day and sitting in Temple all day, right?It's our own holiday: we can do whatever we want with it.

[€uroMeinke]

I though changes could only be made to the date to accommodate ISMs convenience?

Still, nobody messes with Vaginismus

[innerSpaceman]

That's because nobody knows when Vaginismus is!



And no Ju Koon date changes are needed for my convenience. I would have liked to do Catalina, but the date doesn't work for me. No worries. It would have been my last Ju Koon anyway, so now last Ju Koon was my last Ju Koon. That has a certain ring to it.


It seems other people had a date concern as well, which is why I suggested a return to the original floating date of uncertainty and general inconvenience!

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Yeah, I didn't actually know it was the 22nd was previously discussed until I saw the FB post today. (I hadn't seen the earlier one in July.)