I wish I thought this was a joke...

[Morrigoon]

Daylight savings... extended?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050729/ap_on_go_co/daylight_time_4

[Kevy Baby]

The stupid-a$$ quote from the story:
Farmers said the change would adversely affect livestock. How?!? Cows don't go by any clock but their own internal one! :rolleyes:

The lame-a$$ ignorant politician trying to find some positive spin to put on an idea to find ANY possible way to sell it:
"The beauty of daylight-saving time is that it just makes everyone feel sunnier," Markey said.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Cows don't, but farmers do. And the time change means changing the milking schedule. And that reduces milk output. But the argument is still shaky because what's basically been shown is that milk output is reduced for a period following the change in time until the cows get used to it, the it returns to normal. So extending it shouldn't have any more or less effect than there is currently because there are still only 2 time changes a year.

Personally, I'm all for this. I honestly wish they'd make the shift permanent. I much prefer having sun in the late afternoon/evening than in the morning when I'm either at work or asleep.

[mousepod]

The sun is directly overhead. That means it's... what state am I in? What month is this?

[Kevy Baby]

Cows don't, but farmers do. And the time change means changing the milking schedule. And that reduces milk output.If the farmer believes that there is an output difference because the cow is being milked one hour sooner (to the cow, not the human artificial time clock), then the farmer should milk the cow one hour earlier (on the artificial human time clock) when the DST ends in October and stay on that schedule until DST starts up again.

I would tend to agree with your assumption that the cow would get used to the change. And the impact could be minimized by making the change gradual over a couple of days: if 10:00 a.m. is the scheduled milking time, then:

10:00 - three days before DST ends
9:40 - two days before DST ends
9:20 - day before DST ends
10:00 - day DSt ends

Or double the number of days and cut the change time to 10 minutes.

Or just wait until the cows come home.

Or just elimimate clocks, let people do whatever they want whenever they want and let chaos rein!

[Boss Radio]

Personally, I have never been a fan of the whole spring-forward thing. I'm what they call "time-challenged" and more often than not, I'm late enough without any outside help. This just seals the deal.

As a concerned citizen who does not own cows, I am concerned that this will further confuse/confound me, inhibit me from operating heavy machinery, and make me look REALLY late in front of my punctual-minded peers.

Damn you, Tick Tock Man!

[Ghoulish Delight]

If the farmer believes that there is an output difference because the cow is being milked one hour sooner (to the cow, not the human artificial time clock), then the farmer should milk the cow one hour earlier (on the artificial human time clock) when the DST ends in October and stay on that schedule until DST starts up again.
Good theory, but remember, the farmer's got delivery schedules to meet. We're not talking about the independent farmer with his 10 cows. We're talking about the huge dairy farms with hundreds of cows that run on tight schedules. They interface with suppliers, shippers, etc. and they have to meet those schedules. They can't just shift things by an hour.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Yet another outdated system that won't go away.

[DisneyFan25863]

Gah...I hate getting up and going to school before the sun comes up. If they extend it, it will still be dark by the time I am in 1st period. Thats just stupid.

[€uroMeinke]

I think it's time we ditch this whole time zone thing and move to something like Intenet time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time)

[Name]

or you can just base everything off Greenwich Mean Time.

[€uroMeinke]

or you can just base everything off Greenwich Mean Time.

But where's the fun in that?

[Name]

well, if fun is what you want, lets switch to submarine time with their 18 hour days.

[€uroMeinke]

well, if fun is what you want, lets switch to submarine time with their 18 hour days.

That could be interesting, but frankly, I always seem to need to add more hours to the day, maybe if we just added 6 to make a more even 30.

[Mousey Girl]

"Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," he said, as they get another hour of daylight trick-or-treating."

ummm... a big part of the fun for kids is being able to t-or-t in the DARK! Roaming the streets in the dark is a special thing that they don't normally get to do.

[€uroMeinke]

You know, I bet it would be fairly easy to put some sort of large reflecting mirror into space, so that we could illuminate the dark side of the earth, thereby ending this night thing alltogether.

[Name]

or just turn the light dials in all the cities nation-wide to perma-day.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Stupid. I hate DSL anyway. Supposedly we save energy in the evening, but we use more in the morning getting ready for work and all. Nothing is actually "saved".

Besides, nobody goes trick-or-treating until dusk, no matter what the clock says.

[sleepyjeff]

You know, I bet it would be fairly easy to put some sort of large reflecting mirror into space, so that we could illuminate the dark side of the earth, thereby ending this night thing alltogether.

Didn't the Russians do this about 15 years ago to help illuminate a major construction project?

[Mousey Girl]

I think DLS causes us to uses more power. In the summer (at least here) it stays hot well into the night. If it got dark earlier then we wouldn't need to have the a/c on as long during the day.

[FEJ]

I am working on forgoing time by building a mobius continuim

[SzczerbiakManiac]

"Kids across the nation will soon rejoice," he said, as they get another hour of daylight trick-or-treating."

ummm... a big part of the fun for kids is being able to t-or-t in the DARK! Roaming the streets in the dark is a special thing that they don't normally get to do.Exactly!

When I used to go T-o-Ting, my friends and I never began our candy collecting mission before darkness. That's just not Halloween! I have reason to believe the tradition continues because it's still extraordinarily rare to see other lil'uns in search of confections prior to the sun setting in my neck o da hood.

[Kevy Baby]

You know, I bet it would be fairly easy to put some sort of large reflecting mirror into space, so that we could illuminate the dark side of the earth, thereby ending this night thing alltogether.There is no dark side. Don't you listen to Pink Floyd?

[CoasterMatt]

It's all dark...

[Ghoulish Delight]

Okay, this could be annoying. I just read an article that points out a valid concern should this go through. Not devastating, but potentially very frustrating. Most modern VCRs, DVRs, Computers, etc. automatically adjust for daylight savings time. Unless it's synchronizing it's time signal from some broadcast, these appliances will continue to change based on the old schedule.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Don't all the appliances that do that have an ability to turn that off?

[mousepod]

Don't all the appliances that do that have an ability to turn that off?

Yes, you can manually override most of the devices. But still a PITA. I read what's probably the same article GD read, and the point is that it's going to be a real headache. Not just for the end-user of appliances, but for phone companies etc. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8861692/

[Not Afraid]

You know, my CAR is programmed to change as the time changes. It is so ingrained in everything we use. What a PITA!

[€uroMeinke]

You know, my CAR is programmed to change as the time changes. It is so ingrained in everything we use. What a PITA!

Heh - maybe this puts us in line with the EU's daylight savings time, and your car will get it right ;)

[tracilicious]

I guess living in AZ does have it's benefits. <walks off smugly> ;)

[dramaqueen]

I lived in Arizona for 22 years- no daylight savings time. It was a thing of beauty, never having to switch the clock.

Then I moved to the God forsaken midwest. The magical day came up on the calendar and all the clocks had to be switched back. We were plunged into complete and utter darkness at 4:00 in the afternoon. Now it is bright as day until 10:00 at night.

The whole system is so pointless. It makes me laugh how people manage to convince themselves that changing the clock somehoe adds more time to the day, as if time is not a completely man-invented concept to begin with! If you want more daylight, get up earlier.