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Sub la Goon
12-22-2007, 04:34 AM
It's probably been 24 hours since my first wife, Carolyn, died. At least that's what I can guess from talking to our 17 YO daughter, Louise, and the police woman who was there.

I got a call yesterday (Friday) night at around 5:30. It was a paramedic in Pasadena informing me that Carolyn had passed away in the night and Louise was there alone. Except for cops and parameds. Carolyn's husband, Jon, could not be reached and is in northern California anyway. The paramed put me on the line with Louise - who sounded so normal. I said I would be right there and the paramed told me not to rush. They would not leave my daughter alone.

Traffic from Thousand Oaks to Pasadena was ugly at times but I made it at around 7PM. Louise had 4 friends in the living room, playing on her laptop and being silly high school kids. I hugged her for a long time and said how sorry I was.

In the diing room, the police officer, Mary, and I had a talk about Carolyn's mental health problems, bipolarism, and her long-ago overdose and self mutilation. She said there were numerous prescription bottles in the bedroom with Carolyn. All empty and from various doctors. The coroner was on the way and would be there shortly. Carolyn was 42, the same age as me.

She asked if I would like to see her and I did. Carolyn was lying face up in bed and her color made it obvious she was deceased. Her skin was mottled grey and mouth all discolored purple. Lividity. I have heard that term in so many crime shows and I don't really know what it means. Thanks, Google. Looking at her, all I could say was how sorry I was. I should have been stronger for her. Mary asked if I wanted a moment alone. I did not. I wanted to touch Carolyn but I could not bring myself to. She obviously died in her sleep. Eyes closed and mouth almost smiling. On the floor next to her was an old drivers license from NY, at least 10 years ago. I stared at that picture of her. She was so lovely and alive. That is how I want to remember her.

Carolyn's dad showed up and was very casual about the whole affair. I overheard him tell his youngest daughter in very simple terms that her sister was dead. Louise and her friends took off after the coroner appeared. She did not want to see her mom carted off in a van. I made the walk with Carolyn instead. She was in a plastic bag by that time and covered with a blue Coroner cover. Both my ex father in law and I got Mary's business card and the case numer. I called Louise and had her friends bring her back.

We stopped at my second wife's apartment to borrow her air mattress and pump. The 6YO twin girls were up and giddy to see Louise. They showed her their new bunkbeds and played Barbies with her. Wife #2 fed me, even though I could hardly choke anything down.

Now Louise and I are back in my room. I am on the air mattress typing and she is listening to her iPod in bed. I overheard her telling a friend on the phone about how she disvovered her mom at around 5PM and she knew immediately that she was gone. The first thing she could see was through the doorway was her impossibly pale leg. Just as I had. When she touched her cold body, it was obvious. She went outside, called 911 and told them she thought her mom was dead. The guy on the phone had her go back in to perform CPR. He wanted Louise to get Carolyn on the floor but she was heavy and stiff. She coudn't move her. He said it was OK then and that the ambulance would be there soon. They were.

From what Louise told me, she last spoke to Carolyn at about 2AM last night. Carolyn wanted water but was disoriented. She had been sick recently. Louise got the water for her and went to bed. She didn't want to wake her mom when she woke at noon, so she went and worked out at the gym and met with friends. From all indications, Carolyn passed away some time between 2:30 and 4 AM.

Just about 24 hours ago.

Moonliner
12-22-2007, 08:56 AM
Damn. My sympathies Sub.

Snowflake
12-22-2007, 09:00 AM
Oh Sub, I'm so sorry. Condolences to you and your family. :(

Stan4dSteph
12-22-2007, 09:23 AM
Sorry for your loss.

wendybeth
12-22-2007, 09:29 AM
My condolences as well, especially to your daughter. She's going to have a hard time with this, even if she is trying to act like she's not. I'm sorry she had to be the one to find her- what an awful thing to happen.

Betty
12-22-2007, 09:38 AM
So sorry for your loss.

innerSpaceman
12-22-2007, 09:55 AM
oh, so sorry Sub. This is so sad and tragic.

I hope Louise will be alright. From the sounds of it, she may be in shock.


I find this quite shocking myself. And my sympathies are with you and your family.

scaeagles
12-22-2007, 10:13 AM
Oh my lord.

When I first started reading this, I thought you had made a type and meant 24 years.....I'm so sorry.

Prayers for Louise.

Kevy Baby
12-22-2007, 10:18 AM
There are no words at a time like this. My condolences SLG to you and your daughter. Please let us know if there is anything we can do.

Ghoulish Delight
12-22-2007, 10:45 AM
I'm so sorry. I hope you and the rest of her family and friends that survive her find comfort in each other.

mousepod
12-22-2007, 11:09 AM
I'm sorry to hear this. My condolences of course. If you need any support at all, you're in the right place.

Gemini Cricket
12-22-2007, 11:11 AM
My condolences to you and Louise. It does sound like Louise is in shock. I would keep a close watch on her.
Hang in there, SLG.
If you need anything, sir. All you need to do is ask.

Disneyphile
12-22-2007, 11:13 AM
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your daughter. May Carolyn find the peace and joy she's always deserved.

Not Afraid
12-22-2007, 11:28 AM
Chris, I am so sorry to hear to this news. My first thought was for Louise. I'm sure she must be feeling the "what if's". Please encourage her to talk - and you keep talking to us. Please call me if you want to talk live or need Chris and I for ANYTHING. Our house is open.

(((((((HUGS)))))))

CoasterMatt
12-22-2007, 11:32 AM
So sorry to hear this. Please let us know if there's anything you need.

€uroMeinke
12-22-2007, 11:43 AM
I'm so sorry Chris, my thoughts are with you and Louise

MmeLytyeer
12-22-2007, 11:45 AM
This is why I was worried about you...

I am truly very sorry and if you need anything, you know my phone is always on

Boss Radio
12-22-2007, 11:46 AM
Chris, Lisa just called and told us. If you want or need to talk, call us. We are here for you.

Our thoughts and prayers go to you and Louise.

Cadaverous Pallor
12-22-2007, 11:50 AM
I'm so sorry. My condolences aren't enough in such a situation.

DreadPirateRoberts
12-22-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm sorry

BarTopDancer
12-22-2007, 12:04 PM
I am so sorry. Please encourage Louise to talk, if not to you, another trusted and/or trained adult.

/hugs

Bornieo: Fully Loaded
12-22-2007, 01:05 PM
So very sorry for your loss. As with the others here, if there is anything I can do, please don't hesitate to call.

sleepyjeff
12-22-2007, 01:15 PM
I am very sorry sub....I have no words, just very, very sorry.

JWBear
12-22-2007, 01:44 PM
My condolences. <<hugs>>

cirquelover
12-22-2007, 02:36 PM
I'm so sorry.

Sub la Goon
12-22-2007, 04:05 PM
Thank you all.

We are back in OC right now. Louise apparently is coping by denying that it's real and I am coping by turning the events into some cheap dimestore novelization. Wish it weren't true...

At any rate, thanks again and I hope to talk to or see you folks soon.

katiesue
12-22-2007, 05:00 PM
Wow - I am so sorry for you and Louise. As everyone else has said if there is anything at all you need please let me know.

I'll be keeping you both in my thoughts.

Prudence
12-22-2007, 06:25 PM
Such an awful story. I'm so sorry.

3894
12-23-2007, 09:55 AM
Be good to yourself, Sub la Goon. Remember the LoT is filled with people who care about you and are thinking about you in this difficult time of sorrow.

Morrigoon
12-23-2007, 10:04 AM
I'm so sorry.

Just keep letting Louise know you're there for her.

Motorboat Cruiser
12-23-2007, 11:11 AM
My condolences to you and Louise.

lindyhop
12-23-2007, 02:27 PM
I'm so sorry.

Capt Jack
12-23-2007, 02:34 PM
I have no words. my deepest condolences.

Strangler Lewis
12-23-2007, 03:30 PM
I'm sorry to hear about this. I wish you all the best.

LSPoorEeyorick
12-23-2007, 04:13 PM
Oh, I am so very sorry, Chris. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Jazzman
12-23-2007, 05:28 PM
This is so sad. I'm glad you have your daughter with you. This is a good time to care for each other and grow stronger together. Take care.

wolfy999
12-23-2007, 05:31 PM
The Wolfpack sends hugs!

Nephythys
12-24-2007, 08:10 AM
:( Oh dear.

I am so sorry- and such a horrible time of year to lose someone. My sympathies to you and your daughter.

NickO'Time
12-25-2007, 12:48 AM
Sorry to hear about this Chris, my condolences.:(

Gn2Dlnd
12-25-2007, 12:01 PM
It's so hard to lose someone that holds such a prominent place in your life. When there's a history of mental illness or addiction, we can't help but second guess what we could have done better. I'm glad you have Louise, and I'm glad Louise has you. Hang in there, call if you need to.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812
12-26-2007, 11:46 AM
Your in my thoughts, mister. Gather your loved ones to you and be good to each other.