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Kevy Baby 06-17-2008 12:48 PM

3.6 billion barrels is enough to take care of my needs for the next 40 or so years. I don't know what the rest of y'all are gonna do.

scaeagles 06-17-2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendybeth (Post 218469)
Geeze, Scaeagles- where have you been these past eight years with Dubya at the helm? You can't understand anything that Obama has to say, but you seemed to have no problem with George? I certainly can't recall you ever going after him like you do Obama, and the man can't string together a complete sentence.


It isn't about putting a sentence together or making a mistake, WB. I haven't brought up Obama saying he's been to 57 states during his campaign - or at least I don't think I have - as that's simply a misstatement. This is policy. I think his policies are bad. I think some of GWB's policies are bad and have stated so as well.

Alex 06-17-2008 12:56 PM

Yes, and there is a difference between people reaching different policy conclusions (and therefore one person thinking the other's are bad) and jumping to the conclusion that the one who reached a different position is an idiot.

I've said it before, I support Obama and expect I will oppose many of his policy initiatives. If I can do that without being treated by the majority opposing me as an idiot or evil (or, somewhat paradoxically an evil idiot) then I'll be satisfied.

scaeagles 06-17-2008 12:59 PM

I did apologize for that. And I meant it.

Alex 06-17-2008 02:24 PM

I thought you were apologizing for the implication that anybody on this board who would say the same thing is an idiot. Not for saying that Obama is an idiot (not that you need to apologize).

But I don't think calling him an idiot for reaching different conclusions is any different than calling people here idiots (though it would certainly be more personally targeted).

scaeagles 06-19-2008 06:19 AM

Sure seems like Obama is turning out to be like any other politician.

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He has broken his promise to use public financing. "We've made the decision not to participate in the public financing system for the general election," Obama says in the video, blaming it on the need to combat Republicans.
Break your word, blame someone else.

While I don't think that this is Obama's fault, I have no doubt that if McCain's campaign deliberately told two Muslim women they couldn't be in a picture with their head scarves on there might be a bit more criticism in general.

And while I don't like Michelle Obama in the least, Cindy McCain scares the hell out of me.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-19-2008 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 219012)
Sure seems like Obama is turning out to be like any other politician.

You're reading this wrong. He WON'T take public funds.

ETA - I didn't realize he had committed to TAKING public funds and therefore limiting himself to that amount. Personally, I have never had a problem with campaign spending and have a huge problem with public funds being used for someone's campaign....so I'm actually happier this way. Yes, he has changed his position, but I agree with it, so I'm fine.

innerSpaceman 06-19-2008 07:01 AM

Yeah, i hate to quibble ... but saying "we've made the decision to" is clearly an opening to make another and different decision later. It's not the same as "We will not."


BUT .... I've always contended Obama will look and act and feel more and more like every other slimy politician to closer he gets to winning the election.

Fab 06-19-2008 09:03 PM

He's got to leave the door open to combat the filthy 529s McCain has pretty much committed himself to having help him.

scaeagles 06-20-2008 05:02 AM

I might suggest that George Soros has some mighty filthy 529s (I thought they were 527s, but I'm not sure) that will be working on behalf of Obama.


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