Yes, we can.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-08-2008, 03:20 PM

Change will not come if we wait for some other person, or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. ~Barack Obama

Yes, I'm fired up about Obama.

If you feel the same way, this thread is for you. According to the Super Tuesday poll, we have more than a few supporters here. (May I say, I'm calling the State of LoT's Democratic Primary results - Obama wins with 77%. Now how does our state divvy up delegates?)

So, now it's on to other states. Louisiana, Nebraska, and Washington are up next. Sitting here twiddling my thumbs, I realized I needed to do something to help, even though the action is far from me.

Obama's site has the goods, of course. Ways you can help:

Donate. I did.
Urge Edwards to endorse Obama.
Make phone calls to the states that are coming up. There are ways to do this online, and there are phonebank parties IRL. In Santa Ana they're calling Washington state tonight. I have to admit that I'm not a fan of this strategy, but it's there if you want to go for that.
Volunteer. I put my name in, and I'll keep an eye on local events - I'd like to help fundraise, if possible.

Yeah, I'm not exactly an activist, which is why I encourage Obama supporters to do just a little something. Our little something makes a difference.

Alex · 02-08-2008, 03:33 PM

Not that it diminishes a great line but I found this history of "we are the ones we've been waiting for" interesting.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-08-2008, 03:36 PM

Interesting indeed. And still a great rallying cry. Thanks for the info.

innerSpaceman · 02-08-2008, 03:36 PM

I am inspired by Obama's speeches.

Alas, that doesn't do it for me anymore. I remember when I, and most of the country I daresay, was inspired and hopified by the speeches of a far less known presidential candidate by the name of Bill Clinton.

His words filled me with spirit, and trust and joy ... and he came through on none of it.

Even so, he did less actual harm than ... hmm, perhaps only one or two other presidents in my entire 48 year life. But his words were naught but empty promises that either could not be fulfilled or were never intended to be.

Fool me once, and all that. But Obama has to do a whole lot more than give an uplifiting speech and demonstrate a good heart. I believe he has one of those, but it's not enough to earn my wholehearted support.

That said, if he's the nominee ... I will still be pretty pleased.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-08-2008, 03:42 PM

FWIW - "fool me once" only works as a saying if you're referring to the same person. The phrase you're looking for is "once burned, twice shy."

I was burned before, I've been shy since, but this time is different for me.

innerSpaceman · 02-08-2008, 03:44 PM

Well, give us some specifics about what inspires you and why.

You've never burned me, CP ... so I can be inspired by your insprirations, and susceptible to your contageous enthusiasms.

blueerica · 02-08-2008, 03:46 PM

Haha, I liked this from the Slate page that was linked via Alex:

Quote:

"Tell yo mama to vote fo obama!"

sleepyjeff · 02-08-2008, 04:35 PM

"Can" Obama answer some of these questions?

Quote:

Sen. Obama, this question is about global warming, something about which you urge extreme action to fight. You criticize President Bush for going to war in Iraq, even though all 16 intelligence agencies felt with "high confidence" that Saddam Hussein possessed stockpiles of WMDs. Critics of Bush say he "cherry-picked" the intelligence. Hundreds, if not thousands, of scientists consider concerns about global warming overblown. Isn't there far more dissent among credible scientists about global warming than there was among American intelligence analysts about Iraq? If so, as to the studies on global warming, why can't you be accused of cherry-picking?

Sen. Obama, you once said you understand why senators voted for the Iraq war, admitted that you were "not privy to Senate intelligence reports," that it "was a tough question and a tough call" for the senators, and that you "didn't know" how you would have voted had you been in the Senate. And over a year after the war began, you said, "There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage." How, then, can you say that you consistently opposed the war from the start?

Sen. Obama, if elected, you promised to raise minimum wage every single year. But isn't it true that most economists — 90 percent, according to one survey — believe that raising minimum wages increases unemployment and decreases job opportunities for the most unskilled workers? What makes you right, and the majority of economists wrong?

~Larry Elder http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder020708.php3

SacTown Chronic · 02-08-2008, 04:38 PM

Lol....The Iraq vs. global warming.

Gemini Cricket · 02-08-2008, 04:42 PM

I've liked Obama since his speech four years ago at the DNC. (I believe it was four years ago.)
And seeing that he went to Punahou High School speaks very highly to me. (All the hot guys in HI went there.)

If he gets the nom, he has my vote.

So very curious to know who he'd pick as a VP...

02-08-2008, 03:20 PM	#1
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Yes, we can. Change will not come if we wait for some other person, or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. ~Barack Obama Yes, I'm fired up about Obama. If you feel the same way, this thread is for you. According to the Super Tuesday poll, we have more than a few supporters here. (May I say, I'm calling the State of LoT's Democratic Primary results - Obama wins with 77%. Now how does our state divvy up delegates?) So, now it's on to other states. Louisiana, Nebraska, and Washington are up next. Sitting here twiddling my thumbs, I realized I needed to do something to help, even though the action is far from me. Obama's site has the goods, of course. Ways you can help: Donate. I did. Urge Edwards to endorse Obama. Make phone calls to the states that are coming up. There are ways to do this online, and there are phonebank parties IRL. In Santa Ana they're calling Washington state tonight. I have to admit that I'm not a fan of this strategy, but it's there if you want to go for that. Volunteer. I put my name in, and I'll keep an eye on local events - I'd like to help fundraise, if possible. Yeah, I'm not exactly an activist, which is why I encourage Obama supporters to do just a little something. Our little something makes a difference. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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02-08-2008, 03:33 PM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Not that it diminishes a great line but I found this history of "we are the ones we've been waiting for" interesting.
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02-08-2008, 03:36 PM	#3
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Interesting indeed. And still a great rallying cry. Thanks for the info. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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02-08-2008, 03:36 PM	#4
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I am inspired by Obama's speeches. Alas, that doesn't do it for me anymore. I remember when I, and most of the country I daresay, was inspired and hopified by the speeches of a far less known presidential candidate by the name of Bill Clinton. His words filled me with spirit, and trust and joy ... and he came through on none of it. Even so, he did less actual harm than ... hmm, perhaps only one or two other presidents in my entire 48 year life. But his words were naught but empty promises that either could not be fulfilled or were never intended to be. Fool me once, and all that. But Obama has to do a whole lot more than give an uplifiting speech and demonstrate a good heart. I believe he has one of those, but it's not enough to earn my wholehearted support. That said, if he's the nominee ... I will still be pretty pleased.
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02-08-2008, 03:42 PM	#5
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	FWIW - "fool me once" only works as a saying if you're referring to the same person. The phrase you're looking for is "once burned, twice shy." I was burned before, I've been shy since, but this time is different for me. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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02-08-2008, 03:44 PM	#6
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well, give us some specifics about what inspires you and why. You've never burned me, CP ... so I can be inspired by your insprirations, and susceptible to your contageous enthusiasms.
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02-08-2008, 04:38 PM	#9
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Lol....The Iraq vs. global warming. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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02-08-2008, 04:42 PM	#10
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I've liked Obama since his speech four years ago at the DNC. (I believe it was four years ago.) And seeing that he went to Punahou High School speaks very highly to me. (All the hot guys in HI went there.) If he gets the nom, he has my vote. So very curious to know who he'd pick as a VP...
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