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Cadaverous Pallor 06-23-2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 219933)
And Obama wishes to equate outrageousness with legitimate issues.

How is saying "here's a list of things they're going to say about me" infer he's equating them? They're all things that have been and will be said. Don't even try to say that no one has said "don't vote for him because he's black and his name is Muslim". Hell, my mom has already said that.

scaeagles 06-23-2008 01:01 PM

He is expecting (or at least hoping) that the legitimate youth and inexperience cries are equated to those that are not legitimate by lumping them into the same statement.

It is smart politics, no doubt, but I find it despicable to draw a line through all of those as the same type of criticism.

And Alex, you are exactly right. I hate McCain Feingold and it is one of the primary reasons I vomit at the thought of voting for the man.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-23-2008 06:30 PM

You have not posted a link so I don't know what he actually said. But according to you, all he's claiming is that these are all things that people will say about him, trying to scare people away. Which is totally true. Your complaint seems like a massive stretch to me.




"Um....he's black. He is too young. He doesn't have enough experience to protect us from terrorism. He is a secret Muslim - look at his name....."
"THINGS PEOPLE SAY ABOUT OBAMA TO SCARE AWAY VOTERS?"
"RIGHT!"
Dick Clark: "You win the $20,000 Pyramid!"

scaeagles 06-23-2008 08:38 PM

My problem is that he is attempting, by listing them together, to say that people who say he is young or inexperienced are as stupid as those who say he's black or a muslim, and that his youth and inexperience are as invalid as the other two.

innerSpaceman 06-23-2008 08:48 PM

You've asserted that before, scaeagles. But I wish you had the wherewithal to admit that's how you perceive it, but it's not necessarily (nor necessarily not) the way it was intended by Obama.

CP's $20,000 Pyramid analogy is just as likely as not. This time, I think it's the ear of the behearlder.

scaeagles 06-23-2008 08:55 PM

Oh, indeed, it is how I percieve it. And I think I also said he's a smart politician for doing it.

innerSpaceman 06-23-2008 08:59 PM

Only to the extent potential voters are dumb enough to assume everything on a given list has equal value.

scaeagles 06-23-2008 09:04 PM

I think the vast majority of voters - on both sides - are dumb.

wendybeth 06-23-2008 09:07 PM

I feel that way about most of the candidates.

Alex 06-23-2008 09:11 PM

I don't think there was a single candidate running this year that is dumb. There were a whole lot that I disagree with strongly on many and perhaps even most issues.

But that doesn't make them dumb.


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