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Cadaverous Pallor 02-12-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Obama's site
Create Secure Borders
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.

Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.

Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.

Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.

Barack Obama's Record
Crack Down on Employers: Obama championed a proposal to create a system so employers can verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the U.S.
Fix the Bureaucracy: Obama joined Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) to introduce the Citizenship Promotion Act to ensure that immigration application fees are both reasonable and fair. Obama also introduced legislation that passed the Senate to improve the speed and accuracy of FBI background checks.
Respect Families: Obama introduced amendments to put greater emphasis on keeping immigrant families together.

This is an issue I am very much undecided on, but if I were forced to choose, this would be pretty close to my own tactics.

Obama is a Christian, and I do dig his take on liberal morality. The idea of being able to build a bridge so that religious people can be proud to be Democrats...it's another "idealistic" concept that can help us work towards reuniting this country.

If you're worried he's "too conservative", check out all of his other issues.

innerSpaceman 02-12-2008 07:49 PM

Thanks, CP. Keep the Obama info coming!


And 'natch he won Viriginia, Maryland and D.C. No surprises.


Clinton's got all her eggs in Texas and Ohio. Her voters are more poor, less educated.

It's ironic that so many states moved their priimaries up just so they wouldn't be completely unimportant ... and it turns out the last states to vote will be the most important.

Double ironic that, with each state primary and caucus counting like never before, and more Democrats thus participating in the primary election process than ever in history ... the decision may come down to the same old backroom convention politics as the primary system was designed to overthrow.


The more things change ...

€uroMeinke 02-12-2008 08:43 PM

Obama appeals to the young and the affluent, two groups I'd like to be a part of, so I'm leaning in his direction.

sleepyjeff 02-12-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 191510)
It's ironic that so many states moved their priimaries up just so they wouldn't be completely unimportant ... and it turns out the last states to vote will be the most important.

...

I know....I may have to change parties so my vote will be important for once;)

innerSpaceman 02-12-2008 09:33 PM

How funny. Even though i most identify with the young and the affluent, i'm lately considering working class and older Democrats as deserving underdogs in the political process.

Ghoulish Delight 02-12-2008 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 191523)
Obama appeals to the young and the affluent, two groups I'd like to be a part of, so I'm leaning in his direction.

Which are you more likely to achieve?

€uroMeinke 02-12-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 191566)
Which are you more likely to achieve?


With the sale of my soul I get those plus one other attribute of my choosing

CoasterMatt 02-12-2008 11:05 PM

Instead of the word bitch, I think I'll use a visual for another word used to describe Hillary...



:evil:

Not Afraid 02-12-2008 11:15 PM

And, this is why this country is not ready for a female president. :rolleyes:

I was trying to think of another female world leader who was a "gentle flower of a woman". i went through quite a few...... Golda Maier, Margaret Thatcher, Benazir Bhutto, Queen Victoria, Indira Gandhi, Catherine the greati .... I couldn't come up with one.

BarTopDancer 02-12-2008 11:38 PM

This country is ready for a female president that wouldn't lead us down further than we already are. Who doesn't have the reputation that Hillary has. What slander, horrible things did we hear about Margret Thatcher or Benazir Bhutto?

Hillary has a reputation that precedes her, and it's not a good one.


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