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Gemini Cricket 07-10-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

"See, Barack's been talking down to black people ... I want to cut his nuts off." ~ Rev. Jesse Jackson
My, my! What horrible fantasies this reverend has!
:D

scaeagles 07-10-2008 06:33 AM

I find this fascinating on so many fronts.

My first thought is that it was staged. The unbreakable and first rule of wearing a mic is that it is ALWAYS on and Jackson knows this. I am almost going conspiratorial on this and thinking it was staged. Obama is in the midst of a HUGE attempt to appear as if he is in the center (which has moved him to flip flop even more than McCain is at present - a hard thing to do indeed), so why not set it up to have people like Jackson talk badly about him?

Then I think that I'm wrong. It could simply be petty jealousy. Or even legit disagreement that Jackson vented in an unfortunate way (for him - no matter the reason, this is beneficial to Obama).

Then I think if this was a white person he would be crucified. Jackson is getting off easy.

Very interesting indeed.

flippyshark 07-10-2008 07:18 AM

I kind of doubt that Jackson would go along with a conspiracy that required him to purposefully make himself the bad guy. On the other hand, he has frequently volunteered to be a phobic dumbass all on his own.

I just love that his apology for this contains a mention of "I wasn't speaking on record," as if that diminishes the offensiveness of the remark. (It's like when you get this from some so-called friend - "Gosh, I'm sorry you overheard me calling you an asshole. I didn't mean for you to hear it. Honestly. So, we're cool, right?") He gave the exact same lame non-justification when he referred to NYC's Jewish constituency as "hymietown." He apologized and immediately indicated that it was a private remark. Hell, that makes it even worse, doesn't it?

Okay, I've rolled my eyes enough for today.

BarTopDancer 07-10-2008 08:57 AM

Rolling Stone has a great article on Obama, how he put his campaign crew together and some of their inner workings.

BarTopDancer 07-10-2008 08:59 AM

So Jackson thinks Obama is talking down to "black people" because he speaks like the educated man he is and he doesn't speak to them like they are stupid?

I'm confused.

innerSpaceman 07-10-2008 10:19 AM

Well, I agree with Jackson's sentiment. Obama's recent rant about black dads abandoning their kids was, although identifying a true problem, way off the mark and very insulting in insisting it was the root of all problems for blacks in America.


Not to excuse either Jackson's stupidity with a microphone or assholery with personal sentiment.

mousepod 07-10-2008 10:37 AM

Clinton votes "no" on FISA - McCain sits it out - Obama votes "yes".

I'm not loving Obama today.

Morrigoon 07-10-2008 10:38 AM

FISA?

Ghoulish Delight 07-10-2008 10:43 AM

Sh*t, really? F*cker.

scaeagles 07-10-2008 10:46 AM

Obama is doing everything he can to move to the center. This is just one of many things recently that he has changed his position on to do so.


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