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Moonliner 03-26-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Disneyphile (Post 275257)
I hope he's repaid the same courtesy when he loses a loved one. :(

I'd like to see the dashboard footage of this stop and have independent verification as to the time of the stop and his mothers passing before passing judgement.

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.

SzczerbiakManiac 03-26-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 275249)
And why are users storing documents locally anyway?

I can answer that in two words: Politics & Budget
I won't bore you with the specifics. I agree with everything you're saying, but I'm through banging my head against a wall on it with TPTB here. :rolleyes:

Snowflake 03-26-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 275259)
I'd like to see the dashboard footage of this stop and have independent verification as to the time of the stop and his mothers passing before passing judgement.

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.

I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behaviour of the police officer was and is appaling.

Moonliner 03-26-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 275264)
I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behaviour of the police officer was and is appaling.

After watching the video:

Running a red light. Failure to stop. Aggressive behavior, Yelling. These things tend to upset officers. I see plenty of blame on both sides.

Ghoulish Delight 03-26-2009 01:35 PM

I just watched the video. A) You can't see the officer for most of it, but at no point does Moats react as if he has a gun pointed at him. B) His wife (whose mother it was) went immediately inside, so if it was possible to arrive on time to see her mother pass, she made it. C) At no point did Moats even attempt to cooperate with the officer, it was instant screaming and confrontation.

From what I could tell in the video, the officer handled it like he'd handle any stop. Cooperate and it will be done quickly, argue with me from moment one and forget it.

Kevy Baby 03-26-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 275264)
I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behavior of the police officer was and is appalling.

On the surface it might seem that way. Personally, I would have to see the video.

Yes, some cops do overreact. But cops also get a LOT of people claiming that they are rushing to a dieing relative, or some other "excusable" reason for running a red light, speeding, etc.




OK, I watched (without audio) the first couple of minutes of the video.
  1. The driver continued through SEVERAL red lights and stop signs without stopping
  2. The driver had the cop following him with lights on for at least a full minute
  3. The driver and passenger jumped out of the car and were in a frantic mode
With the three points above, the cop was justified (in my mind) to at least pull his gun.

Moonliner 03-26-2009 01:38 PM

After catching up with someone who refuses to stop, I expect it's fairly standard to approach with caution (ie gun drawn).

Ghoulish Delight 03-26-2009 01:40 PM

Especially when they then jump out of the car screaming at you.

Disneyphile 03-26-2009 02:01 PM

I think someone who is in shock over someone dying is not exactly going to be thinking calmly enough to "react appropriately" to a police officer. Shock and grief can completely override and cloud rational thought.

SzczerbiakManiac 03-26-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 275259)
I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.

I used to work at a place frequented by NFL players. Each and every one of them was a major prick. Obviously, not every NFL player is an asshole, but I am comfortable saying most of them are.


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