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scaeagles 08-15-2008 12:04 PM

Obama really has stood up to Hillary well. Wonder how this equates to how he'll stand up to world leaders when necessary.

Ghoulish Delight 08-15-2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 233007)
Obama really has stood up to Hillary well. Wonder how this equates to how he'll stand up to world leaders when necessary.

Unless this is a sign that she'll be the running mate.

Alex 08-15-2008 12:17 PM

"Conservative columnists finds flaw in Obama's political gamesmanship!"

Film at 11.

Ignoring the question of the wisdom of how he's handling the convention, it really does seem silly to seriously suggest that how Obama pursues party unity is a good indicator of future foreign policy. Kind of like saying that recent experience suggests that if McCain is faced with a charismatic opponent on the global stage he'll respond by giving poorly attended speeches at supermarkets.

sleepyjeff 08-15-2008 01:08 PM

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp200...aps/Aug15.html

Nevada, Colorado; latest poll has them going for McCain now.

This is looking more and more like August of 2004, where Kerry had a huge lead over Bush entering the month only to see it completely vanish by labor day.

scaeagles 08-15-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 233012)
Unless this is a sign that she'll be the running mate.

I just don't see that happening, but who knows? If I'm President I don't want Hillary as my VP. I already think LBJ was behind/involved with JFK's assassination.

And Alex, while what you said is certainly valie, this assumes that Hillary Clinton is an ally. Hillary Clinton is an adversary who is interested in herself, not party unity.

Alex 08-15-2008 03:13 PM

Where did I make any assumption of Hillary Clinton being an ally?

scaeagles 08-15-2008 03:17 PM

I drew that conclusion. For Obama to be interested in party unity and extend a rather large olive branch to Hillary, that would seem say that Obama believes that Hillary is interested in party unity. While offering an olive branch to enemies is fine, you don't give up so much to one that isn't interested in peace. Either that or he's giving away a lot in hope that she doesn't stab him in the back. I think that's not a wise thing to do with the Clintons.

innerSpaceman 08-15-2008 03:47 PM

Um, he's offereing the Olive Branch to Hillary's substantial army of supporters, whom he NEEDS to have a remote hope of winning the election.

Tenigma 08-15-2008 03:53 PM

I hate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

That is all. Move along.

sleepyjeff 08-15-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 233064)
I just don't see that happening, but who knows? If I'm President I don't want Hillary as my VP. I already think LBJ was behind/involved with JFK's assassination.


It's gotta make one wonder if the latest friend of Bill to die(Democratic Party Chairman of Arkansas was murdered a couple of days ago) was somehow, someway, in Hillary's path:D


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