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scaeagles 08-21-2008 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 234182)
Really? A Democrat? Thank goodness for your parenthetical.

You did read the quote, right? I'm not sure because your statement isn't addressing it. Should I restate it in parenthesis?

Why so snarky?

Cadaverous Pallor 08-21-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 234199)
Why so snarky?

Nothing irks me more than a "response" that doesn't address the post it's responding to...AND insults my intelligence at the same time. All's forgiven, sleepyj, no worries.

And this is why I don't post in political threads every day. Gotta watch my blood pressure. :)

sleepyjeff 08-21-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 234211)
Nothing irks me more than a "response" that doesn't address the post it's responding to...AND insults my intelligence at the same time. All's forgiven, sleepyj, no worries.

Nah, it's I who probably owes you an apology......I came into this thread with the intention of posting that before I even entered the room; instead of posting it by itself I decided it kinda fit as a response to your post; I suppose it didn't and for that I am sorry.

As for the insulting ( ), that was really aimed at the pundit you were quoting not you.....I don't think I am capable of insulting anyones intelligence here since I often find myself intimidated and in awe of how smart just about everyone here is and would never consider any of you my intellectual inferior.

Strangler Lewis 08-21-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoo (Post 234288)
"A successful dump!’ Biden proclaimed when asked if he had anything to report. ... ‘I got a second load. Anybody that wants to help me and load, let me know.’”

Undignified? Perhaps. But perhaps also just part of the senator’s regular-guy demeanor.

Yes, he was talking about a trip to drop off dead wood, but I want my Veep to be more self-aware of unintended double entendres.

scaeagles 08-21-2008 05:37 PM

If that's Obama's Veep, just wait until the quotes from early in the campaign start flying....Biden slammed on Obama worse than and republican. I don't see it being Biden for just that reason.

innerSpaceman 08-21-2008 06:43 PM

I don't see it being Biden because he's the one I like of the three apparent finalists.

Tom 08-22-2008 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 234294)
Yes, he was talking about a trip to drop off dead wood, but I want my Veep to be more self-aware of unintended double entendres.

I didn't think it was unintended at all.

scaeagles 08-22-2008 12:11 PM

So Obama says yesterday -

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"Everybody's watching what's going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics. Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business, you're starting to think, 'Beijing looks like a pretty good option.'"

Is he serious? Beijing is among, if not itself, the most polluted city in the world. They built this infrastructure specifically for the Olympics and for the image it would portray. The slums get no play. He has completely bought into the propaganda coming from the Olympics. This does not even mention how they built this infrastructure, with the displacement of thousands of people (if not hundreds of thousands) and ignoring devastating infrastructure issues that exist in other areas, such as the earthquake zone. Something tells me Obama wouldn't be keen on building up one American city at the expense of the much of the rest of the country getting nothing.

Also, just as one insane example in that quote, wasn't it just in December that over 500,000 people were stranded for weeks because the train system broke down?

And this is not to be critical of Obama, but it has come out the Hillary was never even investigated as a VP candidate. While I can't imagine that he would have ever considered her, I think it was a huge mistake not to make it appear as if he had. That's gonna be a huge slap in the face of the already disgruntled Hillary supporters.

sleepyjeff 08-22-2008 12:28 PM

Intrade.com has Biden at 60.1. That's 5 times greater than any single other VP hopeful.

Drop down $600 and make a cool $400 over night if you think he's a sure thing;)

Alex 08-22-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 234471)
Is he serious? Beijing is among, if not itself, the most polluted city in the world. They built this infrastructure specifically for the Olympics and for the image it would portray. The slums get no play. He has completely bought into the propaganda coming from the Olympics. This does not even mention how they built this infrastructure, with the displacement of thousands of people (if not hundreds of thousands) and ignoring devastating infrastructure issues that exist in other areas, such as the earthquake zone. Something tells me Obama wouldn't be keen on building up one American city at the expense of the much of the rest of the country getting nothing.

Can you point to the source of the quote so I can see the context? Because your rebuttal doesn't seem to directly have anything to do with what he said in quoted portion. He didn't say that the development of Beijing is something to be emulated he said it is something drawing the attention of business. Which is undeniably true.

But maybe there was something in the surrounding statement that gives it a different tone.

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That's gonna be a huge slap in the face of the already disgruntled Hillary supporters.
But wouldn't coddling her with a symbolic vetting not have been another indicator that he'd roll over at the first sign of Russian aggression?

The Obama camp response is that they spent 18 months vetting her so they could campaign against her and already know about her. Can't say how it'll play in terms of political wisdom but I don't imagine that anybody who refuses to vote for Obama because he didn't check her out will be mollified any by the knowledge that he had and then STILL didn't choose her.

On another topic, I caught part of MSNBC political coverage the other night and Chris Dodd (or Chuck Dodd or Larry Todd, anyway the readheaded goateed guy) was saying that about 80% of the people still labeling themselves as undecided in these polls are Hillary Clinton supporters.

Unless the only reason they were supporting Clinton is that she was a woman and that overruled their more conservative leanings, regardless of hurt feelings I don't really see them breaking for McCain in a large way.


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