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Moonliner 10-09-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Ah...if you want to talk about blame, I could go into how they got the tech and materials needed to build the weapon, but that would just be dem bashing, I suppose. And there is no conjecture about it.

I'm not clear, you trying to argue against the idea that Bush had as a central policy of his administration the prevention of North Korea developing nuclear weapons, or are you just trying to distract from his policy failures by pointing blame in some other direction?

However, I do find it encouraging that all the worlds major powers, including China, have strongly denounced this action by North Korea. I hope this administration can take advantage of that global consensus and work with the world community to force changes in North Korean policy and not fritter away the support of the global community like they did after 9/11.

sleepyjeff 10-09-2006 01:45 PM

At least no one can argue that they don't have weapons of mass destruction.

Moonliner 10-09-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff
At least no one can argue that they don't have weapons of mass destruction.

Well not so fast there... It looks like there is some discussion that this "event" might not have been nuclear in nature....

DisneyFan25863 10-09-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth
I dunno, DF- I don't think the concept of MAD means a hell of a lot to Kim. He's not your usual dictator, and these are weird times. As someone who lives in an area that these missiles can hit, it's a cause for concern, but not alarm. Those days are long gone- it's anything goes these days. If something happens, it happens and we have to deal with it. I just want to know how to blame the Repubs for this. ;)

If they've JUST achieved the ability to create a nuclear weapon, I doubt they have the ability to pack it into a small enough container to go on a ICBM. I'm guessing it would have to be dropped by a plane (think Hiroshima) to get anywhere near the US, and I'm betting that plane would be shot down before it got anywhere near our border.

And as crazy as Kim is, he probably doesn't want to die.

scaeagles 10-09-2006 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner
I'm not clear, you trying to argue against the idea that Bush had as a central policy of his administration the prevention of North Korea developing nuclear weapons, or are you just trying to distract from his policy failures by pointing blame in some other direction?

No....no denial there. But how did NK get the tech? It all has to do with the previous admin believing Long Jong Il-ver when he said he would only use nuke power plants for power, so the US gave them tech and (if I recall) supervised the building the nuke plants.

wendybeth 10-09-2006 06:34 PM

Perhaps said prior administration might actually have had the manpower and world support to spank lil' Kim for misbehaving- instead, he knows we're stretched far too thin to do anything about it now. We may have lipservice from other nations, but I seriously doubt they will back us up in the long run. At least not the UN, worthless piece of merde institution that it is.

tracilicious 10-09-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles
No....no denial there. But how did NK get the tech? It all has to do with the previous admin believing Long Jong Il-ver when he said he would only use nuke power plants for power, so the US gave them tech and (if I recall) supervised the building the nuke plants.


Heh heh. He said long jong. Heh heh.

(Sorry. Carry on.)

Prudence 10-09-2006 07:37 PM

Thanks, WB. Now I'm picturing the Dear Leader in some sort of wacky latex jumpsuit.

wendybeth 10-09-2006 07:41 PM

He's just weird enough to do it, too.


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