BOOM!

Moonliner · 10-08-2006, 08:34 PM

Late reports are that North Korea tested a nuclear device today.

If true, I guess that rather puts a nail in the Presidents policy to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons.

wendybeth · 10-08-2006, 08:42 PM

We're all much safer now. Really.

scaeagles · 10-08-2006, 09:12 PM

Ah...if you want to talk about blame, I could go into how they got the tech and materials needed to build the weapon, but that would just be dem bashing, I suppose. And there is no conjecture about it.

Alex · 10-08-2006, 09:25 PM

Good for them. The sooner we move beyond the folly of non-proliferation the sooner we can react to the real world.

Alex · 10-08-2006, 09:34 PM

The "good for them" part was sardonic.

But I do think pretty much global proliferation is inevitable unless we are willing to commit to a policy of invading and toppling every government that tries for it.

Since we aren't willing to do that (and shouldn't, in my view) what we are going through with North Korea and Iran (and in the past with other countries) is just a form of kabuki that is a lot of motion with no meaning.

wendybeth · 10-08-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Ah...if you want to talk about blame, I could go into how they got the tech and materials needed to build the weapon, but that would just be dem bashing, I suppose. And there is no conjecture about it.

Wow, only two posts in- you're on a roll, Scaeagles!

DisneyFan25863 · 10-08-2006, 10:24 PM

Honestly, I think this means nothing. Let them have all the nukes they want. As crazy as Kim may be, I think he understands the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction. It prevented us from going into nuclear war in the Cold War, and I think it will work here, too.

wendybeth · 10-09-2006, 12:16 AM

I dunno, DF- I don't think the concept of MAD means a hell of a lot to Kim. He's not your usual dictator, and these are weird times. As someone who lives in an area that these missiles can hit, it's a cause for concern, but not alarm. Those days are long gone- it's anything goes these days. If something happens, it happens and we have to deal with it. I just want to know how to blame the Repubs for this.

scaeagles · 10-09-2006, 05:24 AM

From what I understand, most of North Korea already looks like its been hit by a few dozen nukes already.

Gemini Cricket · 10-09-2006, 07:08 AM

Using Bush logic, I'm confused about something. Bush said bombing/liberating Iraq was going to deter other rogue nations in the axis of evil from being a threat to our country and the world. This does not seem to be the case. Kim Jong Il seems to be emboldened.

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Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	BOOM! Late reports are that North Korea tested a nuclear device today. If true, I guess that rather puts a nail in the Presidents policy to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	We're all much safer now. Really. __________________
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Ah...if you want to talk about blame, I could go into how they got the tech and materials needed to build the weapon, but that would just be dem bashing, I suppose. And there is no conjecture about it.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Good for them. The sooner we move beyond the folly of non-proliferation the sooner we can react to the real world.
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10-08-2006, 09:34 PM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The "good for them" part was sardonic. But I do think pretty much global proliferation is inevitable unless we are willing to commit to a policy of invading and toppling every government that tries for it. Since we aren't willing to do that (and shouldn't, in my view) what we are going through with North Korea and Iran (and in the past with other countries) is just a form of kabuki that is a lot of motion with no meaning.
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DisneyFan25863 Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stevenson Ranch, CA Posts: 464	Honestly, I think this means nothing. Let them have all the nukes they want. As crazy as Kim may be, I think he understands the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction. It prevented us from going into nuclear war in the Cold War, and I think it will work here, too.
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10-09-2006, 12:16 AM	#8
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I dunno, DF- I don't think the concept of MAD means a hell of a lot to Kim. He's not your usual dictator, and these are weird times. As someone who lives in an area that these missiles can hit, it's a cause for concern, but not alarm. Those days are long gone- it's anything goes these days. If something happens, it happens and we have to deal with it. I just want to know how to blame the Repubs for this. __________________
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	From what I understand, most of North Korea already looks like its been hit by a few dozen nukes already.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Using Bush logic, I'm confused about something. Bush said bombing/liberating Iraq was going to deter other rogue nations in the axis of evil from being a threat to our country and the world. This does not seem to be the case. Kim Jong Il seems to be emboldened.
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