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Strangler Lewis 02-14-2008 12:15 PM

Hmm. Better take another look at it.

cirquelover 02-14-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 192111)
I guess I'll have to take a look at it again.

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 192123)
Hmm. Better take another look at it.


Ok so now that you've looked in retrospect twice, your public is awaiting your take on it;)

Strangler Lewis 02-14-2008 12:29 PM

Already taken.

Cadaverous Pallor 02-14-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic (Post 191982)
The banner on HiilaryClinton.com reads "Hillary for President". Barack Obama's web site says "Obama '08".

Thanks for the clarification - visible mojo. Seems like that wraps that end up.

As for whether the poster evokes Soviet propaganda, my official response is, "oooookaaaaay." I'm not head over heels for the poster (I saw it previously and chose another avatar instead) but lordy, what a load of baggage to hook onto a poster with a picture of Obama's face in America's colors. Maybe I'm just not a student of Soviet propaganda.

Strangler Lewis 02-14-2008 02:38 PM

How about "Triumph of the Will?"

Alex 02-14-2008 03:13 PM

I think the stylistic connections between that poster and stereotypical communist/socialist propaganda is pretty striking (to me, other people will see or not see the same things).

Completely ignoring that political context it is a style I love. But considering that several people here see similarities I don't think it would be horribly uncommon and is probably not an association the campaign would want. Is this an official poster from them or did someone else make it?

I'm not even saying that was even the intent of the creator; and I'm definitely not saying it is a direct translation of Constructivism (thank Euro for putting the right word back in my head) to Obama but for me it creates the echoes.




Kevy Baby 02-14-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 192168)
How about "Triumph of the Will?"

Or "Triumph of the Wii?"

Not Afraid 02-14-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 192164)
As for whether the poster evokes Soviet propaganda, my official response is, "oooookaaaaay." I'm not head over heels for the poster (I saw it previously and chose another avatar instead) but lordy, what a load of baggage to hook onto a poster with a picture of Obama's face in America's colors. Maybe I'm just not a student of Soviet propaganda.

I would probably venture a guess that many people haven't a clue about the style influence of the Obama poster. We have people who haven't a clue about Huckabee's bible references, why would they know about art? Still, the poster is straight out of the school of political propaganda art, espec. Soviet. It's not really a load of baggage, it's just a fact.

Ghoulish Delight 02-14-2008 04:40 PM

To answer an earlier question, it was done by an artist outside of Obama's campaign, seemingly on their own volition.

Not Afraid 02-14-2008 04:51 PM

In many ways, the feeling behind the original style is generally similar to the rhetoric Obama is touting except the end goal is a bit different.



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In the 1920s and 1930s poster illustrators used print and photography to ennoble popular causes. This modern ‘intelligentsia’ was infused with optimism and action for a new art of social commitment.
They saw themselves as the intellectual arm of the revolution, articulating the true voice of the proletariat. Tracing the heroic and tragic struggle of ‘the people’ from pioneering days to the present, they invented a new sense of history from below and of progress towards the destiny of communism.


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